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Yes, he's a good lad.Always gives of his best and,consequently, improves.I'll check your training times,I may come with Wardy one night.Anyway, back to the thread...There's still been no answer from KungfuMidget on whether they've found what they're after. Sithee later price

Oh! farhad, thanks very much you're making me The style is Goju Ryu and, as the signature says(see below) it's what karate's for (we have some good vids on Youtube). I'm actually 65 but can still manage the stairs, except I forget why I climbed them. May see you soon price

Hiya KungfuMidget, You opened the thread on 8th February and have recieved a lot of helpful replies.Have you sorted anything out yet?

and a quote from Matt Just to summerize, anyone wishing to persue martial arts. 10 days of mma training will be more beneficial to you that 10 years with GKR. If you wish to train in a more traditional art such as karate (like many top mma fighters either had done previosly or still do in many cases) then find yourself an instructor that knows what he/she is talking about. There arn't any in gkr! Matt. And from me, price. There is, in Sheffield, the Norton Dojo, a fact which I've often "advertised", ad nauseum, on SF. This is, as the signature says "Karate as it's meant to be." Non competetive, purely traditional, original (as near as we can get) Okinawan Goju-Ryu Karate. It contains all the " multi-applicability" of techniques mentioned by Kitsune, taken from the katas, and we do know what we're talking about. Okinawan karate wasn't influenced by the Japanese after WW 2 because the US took over Okinawa in 1945 and, while nominally a Japanese Prefecture, it was, in reality, completely US dominated until 1972. Okinawa was then returned to Japan. By this time "traditional" karate, as we call it, was/is even more deeply embedded, without the outside influences of some of the more competitively orientated Japanese Karate. When all's said and done Okinawa is where kara-te started. To see the sort of training /techniques used in Goju-Ryu logon to the our website and click Videos. If you're really interested in the History of Karate may I recommend "The History of Goju-Ryu Karate" by Sensei Morio Higaonna, that is, if you can get hold of it. It seems to be quite rare. Apologies for the long-winded post but there are so many charlatans in "business" in karate. It spoils the reputation of what I believe to be a valuable discipline that could be very beneficial to a lot of people for whatever reason they choose to practice it for. I'm going for a lie down now.

Hi cazzie1, If you are happy with GKR then by all means stay with them. However, could you explain how you can have a self defence discipline without contact? I had three GKR people quit them and join us,this would be about 7-8 months ago ,the lady left but the lads stayed on and naturally, told me about GKR.I came to the conclusion from what I've been told and have read, that GKR are,to be polite, pulling the wool over peoples eyes. The GO,I understand, is taken from Goju-Ryu.cazzie1,never in a million years is GKR teaching what they say is Goju. For a start Goju isn't a sport,nor is it competetive,it is totally self defence, that's why it was devised,that is its whole reason for being.Therefore to defend yourself you must have contact of some description. If you go on youtube put Norton Dojo in Search, then that is more like the techniques you should be learning, if GKR say they are teaching Goju. This isn't to recruit members 'cos we're ok, thanks.I appreciate you probably didn't have anything to compare GKR against when you were looking.As I said at the beginning, if you're happy there then stay, but please don't be fooled that you're doing Goju-Ryu. I've no doubt someone else could put you right on the KAN part. Whatever happens, keep trainin'.

I have a photo of Tony Perrozzi and some mates of his taken in the early 60's. I would have PM'd it to either Becky or Perrozzipaul, but I don't know how. So if either of you, or anyone else, would like a copy I'm afraid you'll need to let me have your email address. price

First thing Hatake-Kakas. Don't put your age on the website!!! Second, if GKR is the only Martial Arts reasonably near to you then, sorry mate, you ain't got much choice. Really, only you (and your parents )can make the choice ref traveling. Maybe going to GKR isn't so bad as long as you know there are far,far better Martial Arts organisations out there. Later when you're older you can travel further and train with one of these. If you do have to start training with them, don't believe GKR's "hype". Remember, they are a Business, their prime concern, as a Business, is to make Money and they'll tell you absolutely anything to keep you,and more importantly,your money with them. I have read this thread as well, and contributed to it too, after all the words on the thread, one thing is very clear, GKR, rightly or wrongly, is held in contempt by the Martial Artists of this Forum and all over the world from what I've read on international forums (or is that fori??). So we can't all be wrong , can we? If you can travel, do so, if you can't the only option open is GKR. Sorry I can't be more helpful. Good luck!

Why not hills? I presume the Seven bit of the title is linked to the hills of Sheffield? Dunno samc. I can't see any relevance to Sheffield in that name, it's a puzzle. I think it'll still get called the Moor by everyone, time will tell.

Sorry I should have writ ... can't be used in competition.

i do intend to train in another style of karate and it will be a full contact one The quote is from kyle and it begs the question for me (and maybe others)what exactly is "Full contact". I mean, a "full contact" elbow strike to the jaw (or anywhere else) is not nice, neither is a poke in the eye, strike to the throat, ear tearing, or that good old standby, testicular grabbing and pulling. So what is defined as "full contact",please? If it only refers to punches and kicks then many karate techniques can't be used, can they?? So can someone give me a definition,please?

Sorry opened a new thread on this, must get some new glasses. Radio Sheff announce the official name for the NRQ is..... SEVENSTONES ??

Go is "hard" as in punches, strikes etc. Ju means "soft" as in ju-do,ju-jitsu. Therefore you have Goju the name given to Naha- te by Miyagi Chojun Sensei to enable this particular Okinawan style to be promoted and spread in mainland Japan in the 1930's. Okinawans never bothered with special names as there were only 3 "styles" anyway. it was of no interest to them locally. They didn't bother with Gi's. They, and the belt system were only introduced after 1953, when Miyagi Sensei died. Gokan is purported to be an amalgamation of these styles. Kan is from Shotokan. Shoto being the "pen name" of Gichin Funokoshi who was, I'm told a poet as well as a Martial Artist, and Kan meaning club, as in organisation, therefore Shoto's Club. I'm reliably informed by a Japanese friend Gokan also means rape.

pzk89, Thou speakest utter twaddle. For pity's sake, how can you not have contact in karate? Karate was evolved for close quarter civilian combat between a trained karateka and an untrained assailant e.g. robber ( we'd say "mugger" nowadays). It should involve at least close quarter combat, upright grappling and groundwork, not as sophisticated as judo etc, but enough to get you on your feet a.s.a.p. If it doesn't involve any of these then it ain't original karate. Mr Sullivan "one of the best in the World" don't talk wet! Put your obvious enthusiasm to a better Martial Art endeavour, you deserve better.

I couldn't agree more with what all the OP's are "saying". But in the end as far as voting's concerned we'll all vote for whoever promises to make us financially better off. If the opportunity was given to vote for a party who would take real action against the petty criminals, but it would cost 5% more on income tax. Or a party who never mentioned the aforesaid but would drop income tax by 2%, who would we vote for I wonder?

Hi PeteGKR I've been away so I've missed alot of what's been going on since my last post. I've had a very quick scan to get an idea. Your loyalty to GKR is commendable, you've answered questions as well as you can. I believe your loyalty is misplaced, that's only my opinion, but my opinion means nothing to you, why should it! However,with your loyalty and enthusiasm you deserve much better than GKR. But, when all is said and done if you're happy doing GKR then stay there.But please make no mistake, PeteGKR,it is not a Traditional Martial Art no matter what your Senseis say or how many glossy mags are distributed by them to that effect.One reason is the fact that there is no contact.This makes GKR nonsense, I'm afraid. There's nothing helps you improve your blocking technique than a smack in the mouth, or any other part of the body. The learning curve rockets. Anyway, some of the advice you've had from this site is good, most of it has just been villifying GKR. Ignore it, that's what happens on here. Try the good advice i.e. have a good look at something else. For instance why not the styles GKR is supposedly made up from GOJU-RYU or SHOTOKAN? I'm told the ex GKR people have been astounded at what they have missed out on when they have trained in a more established Traditional Karate. One last thing, do you do bunkai?