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15 hours ago, GabrielC said:
On a recent GP appointment I have been told I can have an knee replacement ( perhaps not on the horizon just yet due to the pandemic) this would be life changing for me I have heard mixed reports on replacement surgeries but would like to hear from people on their experience. Thanks
While you are waiting for the op, might be worth checking this guys youtube channel out-
he had trashed knees, including partial knee surgery and was told he'd never regain full mobility. Now he's got world class knees and is rehabilitating professional athletes who also had destroyed knees, and getting them back into high level competition
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2 minutes ago, RollingJ said:
Makes a little more sense now, so thanks for the clarification, but these restrictions are contained in specific legislation which is reviewed (every 6 months?) or earlier, and should be removed from the statute book in time.
we'll see
2 minutes ago, RollingJ said:You are looking at it from your perspective, which is probably a little different to that of many, given your own admitted medical condition, so I will not condemn you for it.
If by 'admitted medical condition' you're referring to me being autistic- in reality, that is a neurological difference, not a 'medical condition'. Not being 'normal' does not make me 'ill'.
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21 minutes ago, RollingJ said:
Missed the quote you linked from Anna B, but to have 'zero concerns' about the virus, and its effects, is - to put it mildly, stunningly naive..
By 'zero concerns' I'm referring to my emotional response- I've not had one moment of fear or anxiety about the virus; in contrast I've felt sickened and extremely concerned to watch a population comply with a narrative that has set back our already fragile civil liberties by decades.
I've not had covid yet [according to an antibody test], I've not had a vaccine yet either. I still have no concerns about catching covid, and, having almost zero relevant health issues, would expect to not suffer that much if/when I do get it- like the majority who've had it, I'd expect at worst to suffer mild flu-like symptoms.
In the unlikely, but possible event, that covid finished me off, to be blunt, having seen what the covid measures have, and will continue to do to many of the most vulnerable in our society, and where this total complience to a bizarre official narrative is going to likely lead, I wouldn't be at all upset; probably better off out of it at this point.
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14 hours ago, Anna B said:
Well I'm sorry, but I've had enough. This quite simply can't go on. There are too many lies/inconsistencies flying around for me to take anything the government says seriously anymore.
If people haven't yet realised our way of life and freedoms are being curtailed for the sake of it, with no real logic behind it, they need to think again.
Personally I think the best way to rid us of Covid is to stop all the briefings, sack all the Advisors and experts, and it will vanish overnight.
Good to see people waking up to the realities of what is happening here.
Personally, throughout this, I've had zero concerns about the virus, and very substantial concerns about the virus measures, especially their impact on civil liberties.
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15 hours ago, West 77 said:
It was an unlawful gathering under covid-19 laws both before and after 10.00 pm last night.
Any law which stops outdoor gatherings in the name of covid is inept and unjust, as risk of covid transmission outdoors is minimal. When that law is not only inept and unjust, but is being used to further erode civil liberties, it is no surprise that people break it.
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SYHA allow pets in some properties and not others, the criteria seems to be based on whether the property has it's own front door; so 1 bed flats in a block with a shared main entrance would not have pets, whereas a 1 bed flat not in a block with an individual front door would allow a pet.
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On 26/02/2021 at 18:34, gamezone07 said:
Endcliffe Park, Bingham park, Sharrowvale, busier than ever, little S/D, etc
Makes sense- with chances of transmission outdoors being virtually zero and the benefits of exercise and socialising for health being considerable I'm not at all surprised that people are getting out in the recent good weather.
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15 hours ago, Jim Hardie said:
If there are exemptions, the policy is not worth a light. If you can’t wear one, get your shopping delivered.
Of course it is 'worth a light'- look around you- most are wearing a mask which means less transmission.
Your assumption that all mask exempt people have access to food delivery is very naive.
9 hours ago, Becky B said:Did he ride there though? 7 miles isn't far, on a bike...
The risk of transmission outdoors is much lower than where people are congregating indoors.
8 hours ago, redruby said:I don’t believe there is any limit on how far people can travel during outdoor exercise and if they are genuinely exercising I can’t see much point in there being a limit on time or distance as the risks are tiny when done within guidelines. This government has done a lot wrong in the pandemic but one thing they have got right is recognising the importance of exercise.
5 hours ago, nightrider said:The risk of transmission outside is extremely low. I doubt that is what is driving the pandemic. No point focussing on people going for a walk in the countryside - makes a nice headline, but won't stop the virus spreading which is mostly caused by indoors settings.
Good to see that more people are aware of the extremely low transmission in outdoor spaces, and, the value of exercise. Being fit and healthy is one of the best defences against this, and other viruses
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2 minutes ago, RollingJ said:
So, there's going to be a copper on every street corner? Otherwise, how is that going to work - seriously ? Media hype, again.
How it is likely going to work is-
remember the first lockdown where some police forces went well over the top and, for example, harrassed people simply going for a walk in the country, alone? [plus posting drone videos on the forces twitter account]. And how said forces were instructed by rational superiors to cease such actions?
It looks like they are now being given carte blanche to restart that kind of behaviour, and, get away with it.
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40 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:
But it's much less strict than march/April - you only need to look at the end of your road. "Essential" has a much wider remit this time round. If in doubt, probably visit a school. Also much busier than march/April.
30 minutes ago, melthebell said:Its also not as strict as the first lockdown, people are still allowed to work, nurseries still open etc
.....Yet.
This is the very start of the lockdown- I predict that it will get much stricter. Just from looking at the front pages of the papers today, I see the typical govt rumblings about the public not complying and therefore 'killing people', that always precede tougher measures.
Also, according to the media, British police have been told to issue £200 fines to anyone who doesn't immediately go home when instructed to.
2 hours ago, petemcewan said:For those of you who are interested in this debate. My own personal opinion of this brand of ethics, is that it's a prime example of repugnant authoritarian Utilitarianism. An example of how to tailor a proposition to the outcome that is desired.
I sincerely hope the UK does not adopted the strategy outlined
https://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2020/11/09/medethics-2020-106821
There will be much more of these- IMO mandetory covid vaccination, or, coercive i.e those not accepting vaccination will be limited in terms of travel, employment etc, is almost guaranteed. And that will likely not be a one off, but at least an annual complulsory/coerced vaccination justifed due to new strains/mutations.
Anyone who really finds complulsory/coerced vaccination to be repugnant/authoritarian and a very serious civil liberty issue, needs to realise it is very likely coming and start opposing it [IMO]
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On 22/12/2020 at 12:40, Kidorry said:
I do not think that some people realise the danger they are putting themselves and other people in. The other day at Gleadless Townend there were 5 women, I would say in their mid 50s/60s in a group about a foot away from each other and none of them were wearing masks. I do not care if they catch covid-19 but it is the poor souls that they could pass it on too.
Indoors or outdoors? If they were outdoors, very little chance of transmission.
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a link to a tweeted video of the latest with Ylenia Angeli, who was in the news recently for trying to take her own mother out of a care home, and was arrested in the process.
The video is disturbing and shows the typical bureaucratic response from such organisations these days, to some genuine concerns about the Mother's health.
Here is a partial transcript of what is said in the video, in case, as I suspect may happen, the care home manage to get Twitter to censor it.
the carer told Ylenia 'She's smiling', after expressing her worry about her mothers pale and sunken appearance.
'Can I tell you for the record', said Ylenia, 'Her colour is very poor, she's quite blue around the lips and her breathing is quite fast and to me that is a cause for concern.'
'Like I say we've not had any concerns', replied the carer.
'I know but you never do have concerns for her', Ylenia argued back, 'With respect you don't, I understand you're doing your best, but I can see my mother is not well just by looking at her through the window.'
'All I can suggest is you ring up on Monday morning', the carer replied to which a desperate Ylenia said: 'That's two whole days away!'
'Like I say i'm not the manager', the carer responded.
Ylenia tried to reply, but the carer spoke over her as she continued to give her concerns, before promptly wheeling her mother away and shutting the blinds in her face as he begs: 'Hang on a minute don't take her away, don't take her away, don't take her away you b*****'.
at the end she seems to be requesting that they get a doctor to check her mother, at which point the staff persist in talking over the top of her and then start taking the mother away.
Ylenia had been told she couldn't visit in person as they 'had no tests', so she paid privately to have a test which came back negative, at which the care home said they were now 'waiting for the vaccine'.
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An interesting interview with Neil Oliver on TalkRadio which addresses some issues I'd not thought about i.e. now it has been established that governments can lock down the economy and travel to the extent that it has over covid, and the infrastructure and industry that has arisen to enforce that level of lockdown, at any point in the future, it could do the exact same thing, either in response to a further virus, or now, pretty much anything that it declares to be a national emergency.
How is this going to affect the willingness of people to consider, for example, setting up a business. Having seen so many businesses destroyed by the lockdown, what is, even in normal times, a huge risk, is made much worse by the fact that now, in addition to all the standard concerns, we have the possibility of future lockdowns [mainly discussed in the second 1/2 of the video]
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12 hours ago, petemcewan said:
If vaccination against Cov-19 is to be made compulsory,there would have to be a change in law.
https://ukhumanrightsblog.com/2020/11/05/compulsory-vaccination-the-next-step-for-covid-19/
Even for full on compulsion it is such a legal grey area that I don't think a change in law would be required. If it was required though, the govt would change the law.
As for the more insiduous form of compulsion using restricting access to travel/education etc for those who choose not to have the vaccine, definitely no law change required there.
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32 minutes ago, andyofborg said:
i'm sure the government don't want to have to force people but what choice do they have if the numbers don't come forward voluntarily?
Accept the choice of the public they are supposed to be representing?
But, that won't happen- with continuing 'hints' from govt officials, statements that anyone criticising compulsory vaccination is 'anti-vax' [and therefore stupid and irresponsible], dragging up celebrities to have the vaccine publicly [notice in the papers the Queen is on the agenda for that] and various other manipulations, and, the public will be crying out for vaccination being compulsory, just as they demanded yet more extreme lockdowns and harsher punishments for anyone not complying.
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32 minutes ago, andyofborg said:
You have made hundreds, thousands even, of posts about the problems with masks, I would have thought you would have been more enthusiastic about vaccination since it would mean an end, eventually, to masks. Maybe you like them more than you admit?
Tens. The majority of which weren't about problems with masks but the fact that masks were compulsory.
Similarly, I have no issues with the covid vaccine, I have issues with it being mandatory, whether outright compulsion, or, the the removal of rights of access to travel/education etc for people who choose not to have it.
32 minutes ago, andyofborg said:The only way out of this is a vaccine and that only works if pretty much everyone gets vaccinated, i'm sure the government don't want to have to force people...
I disagree with all 3 of those statements. The first one weakly, as I think there are other ways but this forum is not the place to discuss them. The next 2 strongly: above a certain level an efficacious vaccine will produce an effect, it's not necessary for "pretty much everyone" to have it. I believe the govt do want to force people to have the vaccine and their statements to the contrary are not true, as I explained in my recent previous post [#3062]
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2 hours ago, Thirsty Relic said:
While the Government are ruling out compulsory vaccination, they are hinting at using "immunity passports":
I believe the govt are playing a bit of a game with their 'hints'. They will want compulsory vaccination- what they want to avoid is a huge backlash against it; the least they will settle for is the more insiduous form of compulsion employed by China i.e. you don't have to have the vaccine, but if you don't you can't travel or acess social events/schools etc.
They know that that form of compulsion can be passed off as not compulsion, but as choice- they also know that a segment of the public will go along with that, and promote it.
A standard political manouver is to encourage debate, not on the thing you wish to implement, but, a more extreme version of that thing- this shifts a lot of the debate/protest towards the extreme thing, then, you simply say that won't happen then, we'll have the lesser thing [i.e. the thing you actually wanted all along]. At that point a lot more people will go along with your 'compromise' than would have if that game hadn't been played.
You may have noticed Matt Hancocks 'hints' that compulsory covid vaccinations weren't 'ruled out'- giving the impression that he doesn't want compulsion, but, if uptake isn't sufficent, it may have to be considered i.e. compulsion may be necessary as a last resort, but he really doesn't want to impose it.
However, prior to covid, in september last year, he/govt was “looking very seriously” at making vaccinations [non covid ones, obviously] compulsory for state school pupils and has taken advice on how such a law could work, the health secretary has said."
So why, given his clear support for mandatory vaccines well before the covid epidemic, his he now issuing statements which imply that he only wants compulsory covid vaccine as a last resort?
IMO, he is playing the game I explained above.
The govt 'hints' will continue, along with increasing use of terms like 'responsibility' joined with references to how anyone refusing the vaccination will be putting lives at risk and basically be responsible for future lockdowns.
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8 hours ago, nikki-red said:
Waitrose have them online so worth a try.
Thanks, I'll go down and have a look
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7 minutes ago, Longcol said:
No they're not. They are debating a petition - the vote will be non binding.
The governments stated position has always been for vaccinations to be non compulsory.
I'm unclear on the distinction you are making.
The governments current statement is-
"There are currently no plans to place restrictions on those who refuse to have any potential Covid-19 vaccine."
For the reasons I listed previously, I believe the possibility of compulsory covid vaccinations, or complusion in the form of restrictions, is real. I'd advise those who concur to sign the petition, and, any other petition that calls for the covid vaccination not to be made compulsory, or complusion in the form of restrictions in the future.
4 minutes ago, Baron99 said:I'll be having my jab (or jabs, depending on when I qualify), but for those worried about mandatory / compulsory vaccinations, it's all a myth.
Take time to have a good read of this link from legal professionals.
While I oppose some of the changes made by the act in question, I am not, nor have I ever been, under the impression
"that changes to the Control of Disease Act 1984, which came into force on the 27th April 2020 regarding vaccines and Covid-19 medical treatment, mean that the Government has the power to force medication on you and that this means vaccines."
I see the possibility of compulsory covid vaccine coming from several other sources previously listed, NOT from the changes to the Control of Disease Act 1984 which the page you link to discusses.
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6 minutes ago, Thirsty Relic said:
I think you will find that the parliamentary discussion on the 14th was a direct result of a petition to the Government on this point, which already has 288,000 e-signatures:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/323442
"At 100,000 signatures your petition on the UK Government and Parliament site will be considered for a debate in Parliament"
Yes- I posted that link myself a bit back
1 hour ago, onewheeldave said:Thanks for that- I didn't know about it.
For those who oppose the covid vaccine being compulsory [restricting access to travel and social events is compulsion] there is an online petition here-
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/323442
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7 minutes ago, Anna B said:
What worries me is that the UK, EU and US pharmacuetical corporations are governed by profit above all else, and there is a lot of money to be made from this.
1 minute ago, West 77 said:They only make huge profit by having successful safe drugs and vaccines. The Oxford / AstraZeneca group are going to make it easier for poorer countries to access their vaccine.
pharmacuetical corporations in general are actually quite crooked- here's a list of the largest legal settlements when their crimes have been uncovered-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_pharmaceutical_settlements
Bear in mind that the sums may seem large, but generally are peanuts compared to the profits achieved by the crimes, which pretty much guarantees things won't change, as the settlements basically become a straightforward business expense.
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18 minutes ago, Thirsty Relic said:
The wording of the petition is very interesting:
"I want the Government to prevent any restrictions being placed on those who refuse to have any potential Covid-19 vaccine. This includes restrictions on travel, social events, such as concerts or sports. No restrictions whatsoever."
There are many people who simply do not understand the threat of restrictions, and simply focus on the Government making vaccination compulsory. Those people may well be satisfied with the Governments response on this (same reference):
"There are currently no plans to introduce a Covid-19 vaccine in a way that penalises those who do not take up the vaccine. However, the Government will carefully consider all options to improve vaccination rates, should that be necessary."
Of course, the Government are leaving the prospect of making it compulsory at a later date out there, but saying they have no plans to do it now. Assuming that most people offer a jab get one (or two), the r number will come down, infections will drop drastically, and life can go back to normal. The recent restrictions have led to infections coming down - vaccinations should just continue this process, without any need for any compulsion (that would prove unpopular, and probably wouldn't work anyway).
Of course, I hope you are right. I'm not anti-vax but I am very anti-compulsory covid vaccination [including compulsion in the form of 'restrictions' to travel/social events]
But I see several factors that lead me to believe that compulsory covid vaccination is on the cards for the future-
1. the govt has previously issued several statements saying it won't be mandatory "“There will be no compulsory vaccination, that’s not the way we do things in this country."
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/uk-news/boris-johnson-says-covid-19-19333253
yet here they are about to have a debate on whether to restrict those who turn it down!
2. the constant wording such as "It is vital that a significant proportion of people who are offered take up a Covid-19 vaccine in order to protect themselves as well as other vulnerable individuals. Averting a second wave is a key priority for the government and high take up of a vaccine when available will greatly contribute to that."
with the implied threat that if the public don't go along with it in the required numbers, then, just as happened with many of the lockdown measures, they will be made to.
3. as we've learned on this thread, no safety testing for long-term side effects for the vaccine [it would be impossible]- as someone has previously pointed out, long term side effects are considered unlikely, nevertheless, a portion of the public will refuse it for that reason.
4. we've also learned that no testing has been done for drug interactions- I feel this will inevitably lead to many of those on long term pharmaceuticals being somewhat wary of having the vaccine, and, of course, the vaccine won't be permitted for those who are pregnant or on immuno-suppressive drugs.
points 3 and 4 could well lead to sufficient numbers refusing the vaccine [or not being eligible for it], that the government will increase the pressure, via restrictions, or, ultimatey, making it compulsory.
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47 minutes ago, MuteWitness said:
It is in parliament on the 14th if there should be restrictions for those not having the vaccine.
Thanks for that- I didn't know about it.
For those who oppose the covid vaccine being compulsory [restricting access to travel and social events is compulsion] there is an online petition here-
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/323442
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I'm after a specific brand of raisons- Sunmaid. I used to get them from Tesco but my local store seems to have ceased stocking them and I've not seen them in any of the local shops. I'm after the tubs [around 400 grams I think] NOT the little multipacks in miniature cardboard boxes, as they are not as good value as the tubs.
Does anybody know of a Sheffield store, especially in the town, Crookes, Walkley, Hillsboro, Sharrow areas, that stock the tubs of Sunmaid raisons?
we'll see
Chauvin Guilty Of George Floyd's Murder
in Padders' Bar: General Discussions
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Yes, luckily there was footage, which is the only reason this went to court. Usually, of course, there is no footage, so safe to assume that in the US many black people have/are/will be similarly killed by police and it won't go to court.