ECCOnoob

On another thread you were banging on about "putting things into perspective"... "glass half full"... "Positive thinking" ... "focussing on the little positives" Now you come out with this load of doomongering exaggerated hysterical bull. No dear. Most people in this country do afford a roof over their heads, many do afford to run a car (might not be a 100k mercedes but it's a car)... Even those on modest incomes do generally afford some form of holiday (there's flight these days cheaper than most train tickets) Nearly all people in this country get their free at source healthcare irrelevant whether they are earning or not. They simply have to walking into a hospital or GP clinic, others who work for any sort of larger employer get additional private healthcare as a matter of routine as part of their employee benefits. Most do have insurance. All do have clothing (we are in the era of £2 Poundland t-shirts and £50 Asda suits). Most do stretch themselves to the odd treat. They do put food on the table. Stop being so melodramatic. It's embarrassing.

Does it really matter. Even if, and it's a massive if, everything related to Event Central and the resurfacing works Fargate were beautifully synchronised, how long would it be before some some other 'stuff' happens right outside or next door or just up the road. Cities are always evolving, circumstances change all the time.... so there will always be a time when something is being dug up or some scaffolding is being put up or there's some repair works being done or some new business opening creating temporary hoardings around them or new street furnishings being installed or old ones being taken out.... What are these organisations supposed to do? Just not do anything because it's too much hassle. Or do they put projects and investors on hold for eternity whilst they despeately hope that the stars and moon will align and the feng shui is all in place.

Perhaps if Dr Rob knows so much better he should have put himself forward as a candidate, got elected and stood as an MP so he could have had a say on those "policies that destroyed the NHS"

What the hell has it got to do with you? There's over 584,000 people living in the Sheffield boundary, nearly 23,500 living within the city centre itself. Perhaps some of those people DO want and need this.

So? Waiting lists are only one tiny part of running the organisation. Patients as a collective are dumb. Patients are fantasists. Patients only care about themselves. Patients think the word revolves around them. Patients are demanding. Patients are unrealistic. Patients expect Rolls-Royce service four bus ticket prices. The OBR records that the spending deficit is about half of what it was since Labour were last in power. Same with public sector borrowing which is actually on a decline as in 2009 it was at 11% of GDP. It's now down to just over 4%. Rachel Reeves already tried to make lots of noise about Tory government economic handling but full fact proved her wrong on several occasions.

Good. It's called balancing the books. Something which Labour continually seem to fail at. How much of that big budget in the Labour years was being instantly swallowed up to pay off massive debts created through their inflated and expanded PFI builds. What about the 191% increase in public sector debt which they created during the Blair and Brown terms. What about Gordon selling our gold off for an estimated £7 billion less than it could have been worth. What about Blair's spectacular NHS computerisation failures leaving them with a bill of an estimated £26 billion. What about the Labour-controlled Welsh NHS with its three failing Health boards and several sectors being inspected and marked as serious concerns. "The NHS will only ever be safe in Labour hands" you said. I say again, you're burying your head in the sand.

Nice deflection there. We were talking about funding until you changed the subject when you got caught out talking out of your backside.

Oh yes like when Labour scrapped PFI for example.... oh no wait.... they expand it massively and even brought in a specific bill. The National Health Service Private Finance Act. Pull your head out of the sand.

Funny how many of those qualified staff always seem to find plenty of time to fit in their private funded consultations and academic consulting and teaching and medicolegal work on the side though.

Good points. But let's not forget, they were also built on the back of slave labour or poverty wages. They were built at a time when public opinion and perception had no matter. Built at a time when there was no keyboard warriors, twitterati and packs of rabid journalists poised ready to belittle, attack and critique the 'greed' 'waste' and 'disgraceful excess' on all and everything that got put on the drawing board. They were built at a time when developers and architects didn't have to worry about trivial things like planning regulations or blowing up someone's land to build or throwing out 100 families of the homes without compensation. These days if the council built so much as an extension, everyone screams about how much or accuses them of wasting money or crying that taxpayer money be better spent on the nurses and carers. Look at the state of things like HS2 or our own HOTC2. Barely a spade hit the ground before the deluge of protests and backlash and criticism and put downs... We get soulless glass covered boxes because everything now has to be built to a cost, built neutrally without offending or upsetting, built with a efficiency and economy, built environmentally so the local birdies and squirrels don't get hurt. It has to be built from ground up within 1001 parameters and restrictions of which aesthetics are usually way way way down the list. Even if one of them does dare to be even remotely creative it doesn't take long for the armchair architects and story hungry local rags to start laying into them. That is the unfortunate reality.

This I feel is one of the biggest factors. I have no problem generally with niche pieces of art for small selective audiences. There are other organisations in the city that have been doing that for years either through small performances in community centres, community radio or more often these days online through things like Patreon or YouTube. I only vaguely know the name Theatre Deli because they were located on the moor in the old Woolworths premises and then seemed to move down to an old retail unit at the bottom of the moor and then I think moved again to Fitzallan Sq. But like others have said, I have never seeing any advertising or promo for their events or encouraging to get involved with them or seeking gifts or donations to them. Not even low level comms on things like Twitter or forums like this. I've heard of and even been to other small, arty, niche, amateur acting or performances in places like the Showroom or the Library theatre or the Montgomery hall or in the Harlequin or the Lescar etc...... so there must be some level of interest into it. I think there's more to this than is being said. If other organisations seem to get their work staged and names out there - what did they do wrong.

I thought that's what they did. Recorded Delivery is not necessarily about the actual named recipient signing for it as long as somebody at the address or premises signs for receipt of it. However, if you are suggesting that it just got shoved through your letterbox and the postman themselves signed the recorded delivery tracker, that definitely does not sound right. Do you live in some apartment block or shared house? If somebody else living at your address or location signed for it, that sounds more likely.

Well why dont those drivers can go off and set up their own organisation and develop all the technology to collate and despatch bookings and track vehicles and deal with all the administration and legislation that comes with handling customer data and payment details and electronic transactions and all the marketing and social media promotions and all the branding and franchising and contracting.... If they don't like the new terms and the increase in the deductions, they are free to go elsewhere as many of them seem to do already given they are working dual companies. I'm sure if enough of them walked Veezu would soon get the message. Why the protesting? They are supposedly self-employed right? That's where they have the luxury of picking and choosing when they work and how many jobs they want to do each day and managing their own own books and seemingly choosing how much tax they want to pay that year? The accounts have it both ways. If they want a guaranteed level of income and some security, get them on an employee contract with fixed hours, mandatory work terms and a standard hourly rate with monthly taxable deductions payroll like everyone else does. They will always have very little sympathy from me. It's about time the taxi mafia are starting to feel some disruption and competition and a reality check. They've had their own way for far too long. It's business.

Even more of an obvious anomaly given that based on current minimum wage, the pre-tax earnings of a full-time min wage worker is over £22k. Must be an awful lot of taxi drivers earning in less than minimum wage. Makes you wonder why there's so many of them.

I thought that was more to do with it being listed and the historic tiling on the building.

I suspect like most similar establishments, at 1:00 a.m. with the beer goggles on most customers will think it like the Savoy Grill. I don't exactly recall the fondly remembered Chubbies or Pepes either being the height of cleanliness and hygiene ratings but when you have had 17 vodka redbulls and crave your cheeseburger with cheesy fries, needs must.

24 hours - since when?

What do you mean by entertainment space?

Based on nothing then other than a load of unsubstantiated, unverified, irrelevant bull spewing from your keyboard. Irene is that you dear?

The concept idea from Arup just to win some trinket is just a dream. Personally I think it nonsense that a public healthcare facility on a shopping street creates economic uplift. We already have them on George Street and Rockingham Street and I don't exactly see much economy moving as a result of it. In fact, it may even damage it by encouraging addicts or delinquents to congregate around the area. Whilst I would love to see another large department store moving in, I can't see that happening in view of the already decline of such shopping generally. I did get wonder if Marks and Spencer would consider moving now that JL has shut down and they no longer need to be in their eye line. However, the whole Debenhams store might be a little bit too big for the M&S s style of layout. Another idea could be expanding out Atkinsons who always seem to be running out of room and squeezing things in their current store. Take it right back to how they used to be years ago when they had multiple branches around the city. Keep the furniture and homeware in one store and then do a great expansion of their fashion, beauty and lifestyle stuff into another store, making it a bit more premium, etc. but again probably unlikely as they would not want to overreach themselves nor lose the convenient parking. So to me the best thing is splitting to maybe two or three units and trying entire some smaller store brands to take up space. Something like a Uniqlo and maybe a Sephora could do well captive given the large student population on the doorstep.

Based on what?

In theory, yes, it's a wonderful idea. But as has been discussed before, where exactly its supposed to go is a far more difficult thing to achieve given our roads and natural geography. Let's take the Hallamshire for example. Obviously there would need to be some spur off the existing tram tracks but where is it going to go? Are we going to get some tracks along both sides of Weston Bank fighting with the already manic traffic. A modern day supertram system is 35m long and certainly won't fit down something like Beech Hill Road or Claremont Place. Even if it went along Glossop Road it will still hit a barrier of trying to cross over something like Fulwood Road. The northern general is similar. It might be feasible to bring the tram up and over Herries Road but you certainly would not be able to get it onto the NG site itself as theres not enough room and where would it carry on to because I can't see it fitting down the already narrow residential streets in firvale. It's very different these days to be old-fashioned at tram system which was nothing more than the size of a bus with tram stops precariously shoved in the middle of the road on narrow island kerbing. Now everything has to be low level, wide access, disabled friendly... In a ideal world the whole thing should have been put underground but 30 years on is far too late for that. Whilst I would like to see the network expand, I think the mayor's dreams are just that. It's all an ego and publicity exercise like the airport. If any routes were developed it's going to take decades. We all know the hassle, complaints, disruption when the thing was first built and all the expense and effort just to try and get a tiny extension out to Rotherham using existing railway. To start seriously majorly expanding it across residential areas and narrow streets will barely get off the drawing board before the Mayor is out of office and long gone. That's before we even talk about the budget, which as we all see all the time is as totally fickle could disappear tomorrow at the stroke of a civil servants pen.

Let me try and break it down into simple steps for you. The current in National minimum wage for people over 21 years old has just had a 9.8% increase to £11.44 an hour. So any unskilled worker doing the most menial of tasks could potentially be earning equivalent full-time of over £22,000. So, if an envelope stuffer and floor cleaner is earning potentially £22k how much more do you think is reasonable for a skilled Administrator to earn? An office manager? A qualified analyst or planner? A social worker? A department manager? A qualified lawyer?..... Do you see where this is going.... Like I said, a chief executive in charging an entire sector or division of a large organisation comes with a certain salary.

Just because you shout it doesn't automatically make it correct.

Bull. As I have tried to get into your thick skull, there are mid-level service managers on nearly £60k project managers and HR advisors earning nearly £50k. Even pen pushing business support officers earning over £30k. You serious to think a head of a division with responsibility for high level policy, strategy, legality, compliance, overseeing hundreds or thousands of staff and a multi-million pound budget is going to be paid £5k - £10k more than some mid-tier manager employee??? Join the real world.