Rioja Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Pope Benny has attacked the UK's Equality Bill saying it "violates natural law" and has urged Catholic Bishops to fight it with "missionary zeal". Story here. It seems his biggest bone of contention is that the new Bill could ban the Catholic Church from discriminating against homosexuals, the Church's right to ban gays from senior positions. As well as exposing the Catholic church as old fashioned and illiberal it also begs the question why homosexuals would want to be senior figures in a church and religion which is specifically opposed...to homosexuals. Why would a tee-totaler want a senior position in a brewery? Why would a black person want to be senior figure in the Ku Klux Klan, why would a Socialist join the Tory party or a Vegan join the Meat Marketing Board? Surely some organisations are exclusive....just because they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horribleblob Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 ...Why would a tee-totaler want a senior position in a brewery? Why would a black person want to be senior figure in the Ku Klux Klan, why would a Socialist join the Tory party or a Vegan join the Meat Marketing Board?... To try to change the system from within? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rioja Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 To try to change the system from within? A bit like Militant Tendancy joining the Labour Party in the 80's? They were all expelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rioja Posted February 2, 2010 Author Share Posted February 2, 2010 The people who this applies to are not people who would be likely to have any influence over where the church is heading - it does not apply to the people that are/want to be priests or ministers. In which case he seems to be kicking off over nothing and just emphasising how intolerant and rooted in the past he wishes his Church to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horribleblob Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 A bit like Militant Tendancy joining the Labour Party in the 80's? They were all expelled. Yes, it's not necessarily a successful tactic. I recall in the early 80s a number of hunt sabs joining the National Trust (and thus having voting rights at AGMs). But, like auto98uk has said, this is more about gay cleaners than it is about cardinals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Dog Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 What has it got to do with him what goes on here anyway? He is just the international leader of a minority sect in this country. If Sunni or Shia leaders based in the Middle East gave their opinions on British laws, we would quite rightly (IMO) tell them where to get off. We should tell the pontiff where to stick his views too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urien Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 There is already an exemption so the people who actually deal with religion - priests etc, can be appointed as the church sees fit. What they are complaining about is that they may have to employ a gay cleaner! Why shouldn't an employer have the right to employ whomsoever they wished? Is this a democratic country - or what? Why should we be shackled by Marxist doctrine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Why should we be shackled by Marxist doctrine? I've read Marx; he never wrote that much about gay-rights within the church. You use the word so much i switch off and ignore everything you say. If it rained you'd call the clouds marxist. This Law applies because it is European Law, and Churches cannot pick and choose which laws they agree with and which ones they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Dog Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Why shouldn't an employer have the right to employ whomsoever they wished? Is this a democratic country - or what? Why should we be shackled by Marxist doctrine? I'd like to reserve my right to never employ you, given your whacky spoutings. But, hey, you might just be good at your job, so I guess you should be given a chance, despite the evidence that you are ever so slighly whacky. I'm not at sure what this has to do with Marxist doctrine - please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Dog Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 Why shouldn't an employer have the right to employ whomsoever they wished? Is this a democratic country - or what? Why should we be shackled by Marxist doctrine? And what is the weird thing you've got for your avatar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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