PeteMorris Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 I see on the news today that the tobacco companies in Australia have lost a high court ruling to completely ban any type of logo or name on cigarette packets. The packets may now only be olive green with a rather horrible image of some cancer related ailment graphically depicted on the front. My personal view on this, is that it will merely play into the hands of tobacco counterfeiters (which are already rife, both here and in Australia). They must be jumping with joy! The average person will no longer be able to tell if they are buying genuine fags or something filled with grass clippings and camel dung! PLUS, the government will instantly lose a huge dollop of tax revenue, but will obviously 'claim' the strategy has been a success! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 The average person will no longer be able to tell if they are buying genuine fags or something filled with grass clippings and camel dung! Buy from a reputable source and you're pretty much guaranteed to be buying legitimate fags. Buy from a back street trader or in the pub and you take your chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 Buy from a reputable source and you're pretty much guaranteed to be buying legitimate fags. Buy from a back street trader or in the pub and you take your chances. Pretty much?..... You think that counterfeit goods aren't already in the mainstream? All the plain packaging will do is make it much easier for them be to sold mainstream! Nobody will know what the hell they are buying including "reputable sources". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 So you're saying that the cigarette counter at Morrisons, for example, sells fake goods and would sell fake cigs? Where do you think big supermarkets get their goods from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 So you're saying that the cigarette counter at Morrisons, for example, sells fake goods and would sell fake cigs? Where do you think big supermarkets get their goods from? No, not knowingly. But if one brand looks exactly the same as another brand (fake or not) how are they going to know? The ciggies come from wholesalers (warehouses). Of course every warehouse is squeaky clean and would never get hold of dodgy goods, and pass them off as genuine for a huge profit! Would they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanl Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Good point actually. Don't know why they don't sell them in brown paper packets and have done with it. What the packet looked like had no bearing whatsoever on me having my first fag....but just fitting in with everyone else did. Mind you I WAS a late starter and stopped 20 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 Good point actually. Don't know why they don't sell them in brown paper packets and have done with it. What the packet looked like had no bearing whatsoever on me having my first fag....but just fitting in with everyone else did. Mind you I WAS a late starter and stopped 20 years ago. Thank you Joan! I mean, pretty soon they will all "not be on display"....as is the case already with supermarkets and such. So what's the point of making them all look exactly the same? It's just an open invite for organised crime to get a huge slice of the market. With relative impunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Thank you Joan! I mean, pretty soon they will all "not be on display"....as is the case already with supermarkets and such. So what's the point of making them all look exactly the same? It's just an open invite for organised crime to get a huge slice of the market. With relative impunity. Are the current counterfeits easy to spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 Are the current counterfeits easy to spot? Some are, and others are not. Instead of having in the region of 200 corporate designs colours and logo's to copy. If they're all in plain packaging, it makes the job of counterfeiting much much simpler, and easy to get 'right' See this link. http://www.bat.com/group/sites/uk__3mnfen.nsf/vwPagesWebLive/DO8RSGJB?opendocument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Some are, and others are not. Instead of having in the region of 200 corporate designs colours and logo's to copy. If they're all in plain packaging, it makes the job of counterfeiting much much simpler, and easy to get 'right' See this link. http://www.bat.com/group/sites/uk__3mnfen.nsf/vwPagesWebLive/DO8RSGJB?opendocument Obviously Britsh American want to be able to use their own branding so they have an agenda to be against plain packaging..whatabout if all the manufacturers had to use the same packaging with maybe a hologram or something to verify it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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