Not Intent Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 its only bootlegging if you copy a legit cd release. my cd would feature tracks copied from original vinyl that have never been officially issued on cd. therefore it aint bootlegging. i would also supply it free of charge. i swap cd's all the time. its not about rarity or value either. its about being true to yourself and your punters. keeping it real in other words i know the dj who copied his vinyl onto his laptop. embarrasing. i wouldnt attend a venue that played cd's. i would like to think i am part of a progressive scene where nostaglia plays a much smaller part. anyway, each to their own. nice talking to you all. check out the site i work on http://www..soul-source.co.uk cheers Hi Northern Soul, Read all your'e comments with great interest & you don't half like stepping on banana skins:hihi: Your'e the guy who regularly attends venues like Ponds Forge selling records arn'et you. Ever sold any bootlegs? I think we all know the answer don't we? So it's ok for you & others to sell bootlegs (how legal is this?) but a DJ gets ripped to bits for playing a legitimate re-issue. Suppose you sell a bootleg to a DJ & he then goes & plays it in his set an hour later? Arn'et you as guilty as him as you supplied it to him:cool: How mugh money does the original artist recieve for the sale of these bootlegs or any originals you sell for that matter? NOTHING. At least the artist recieves a percentage of the sales for a legitimate CD (the recent Kent, Goldmine & Expantion releases spring to mind). You are as bad as the Soulman from the Red Lion (who noticeably has not replied to my comments earlier in this thread) Another hypocrite me thinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernSoul Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Hi Northern Soul, Read all your'e comments with great interest & you don't half like stepping on banana skins:hihi: Your'e the guy who regularly attends venues like Ponds Forge selling records arn'et you. Ever sold any bootlegs? I think we all know the answer don't we? So it's ok for you & others to sell bootlegs (how legal is this?) but a DJ gets ripped to bits for playing a legitimate re-issue. Suppose you sell a bootleg to a DJ & he then goes & plays it in his set an hour later? Arn'et you as guilty as him as you supplied it to him:cool: How mugh money does the original artist recieve for the sale of these bootlegs or any originals you sell for that matter? NOTHING. At least the artist recieves a percentage of the sales for a legitimate CD (the recent Kent, Goldmine & Expantion releases spring to mind). You are as bad as the Soulman from the Red Lion (who noticeably has not replied to my comments earlier in this thread) Another hypocrite me thinks i have never sold a bootleg at ponds forge. where did you get that info from? remove the hypocrite comment out of respect please. why are you so arrogant? i am not talking morals here. i have personal opinion that if you aint got an original record - dont play it. also, dont be fooled in believing artists always get a cut from re-issue sales. my argument isn't about the artists anyway. i originally praised the venues who insist on doing things the proper way. when you live and breathe the soul scene it is important that things are continually moving forward and this is the sole reason why i support the guys doing this. thing is i probably know you and get on well with you lol. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deon Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 hey come on guys!! less of the bickering, i understand what your saying but i allways remember when everyone from all over the country in the northern scene were best of mates and noone fell out over tunes apart from if it was rare and someone grabbed it before i could get it: (wigan casino" was the place to be in the 70s early 80s it would be great if we could all reunite like the old days:hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Intent Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 i have never sold a bootleg at ponds forge. where did you get that info from? remove the hypocrite comment out of respect please. why are you so arrogant? i am not talking morals here. i have personal opinion that if you aint got an original record - dont play it. also, dont be fooled in believing artists always get a cut from re-issue sales. my argument isn't about the artists anyway. i originally praised the venues who insist on doing things the proper way. when you live and breathe the soul scene it is important that things are continually moving forward and this is the sole reason why i support the guys doing this. thing is i probably know you and get on well with you lol. cheers Ok Northern Soul i apologise for the bootleg comments i threw at you. Maybe i jumped in a bit there, sorry. I know stuff like this happens though. Regarding the comments i made about re-issue labels i know 2 of the labels i mentioned make sure funds get back to the artists, im sure you know which 2. A lot of my anger towards the northern scene is the higher ground a lot of the fans of this genre take. I attend lots of underground music events across the country & i seem to find that northern punters generally tend to think they are a bit better than everyone else. Most of the nights i attend are northern nights but i also turn out at modern nights & also go to ska nights & doo-wop events but i never seem to see the snobbery that i see on the northern scene. A classic example is the amount of money that changes hands for vinyl, just take tracks like Charles Sheffield or the 5 Royals - £20 on the doo-wop scene, £300+ plus on the northern scene - Whats all that about? Thanks for the link to your site by the way, very imformative:thumbsup: Regarding knowing me, you occasionally nod your head at me at venues you see me at but i will introduce myself to you at the next Ponds Forge & we can share a beer. I might even have a look through your sales box but be warned, im paying doo-wop prices LOL Not Intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernSoul Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Ok Northern Soul i apologise for the bootleg comments i threw at you. Maybe i jumped in a bit there, sorry. I know stuff like this happens though. Regarding the comments i made about re-issue labels i know 2 of the labels i mentioned make sure funds get back to the artists, im sure you know which 2. A lot of my anger towards the northern scene is the higher ground a lot of the fans of this genre take. I attend lots of underground music events across the country & i seem to find that northern punters generally tend to think they are a bit better than everyone else. Most of the nights i attend are northern nights but i also turn out at modern nights & also go to ska nights & doo-wop events but i never seem to see the snobbery that i see on the northern scene. A classic example is the amount of money that changes hands for vinyl, just take tracks like Charles Sheffield or the 5 Royals - £20 on the doo-wop scene, £300+ plus on the northern scene - Whats all that about? Thanks for the link to your site by the way, very imformative:thumbsup: Regarding knowing me, you occasionally nod your head at me at venues you see me at but i will introduce myself to you at the next Ponds Forge & we can share a beer. I might even have a look through your sales box but be warned, im paying doo-wop prices LOL Not Intent. nice one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calahan Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Gotta admit, i love my soul of the Northern variety! It's a real stamp collector of a scene - would be interesting to know what people's 'Penny Black' track was!! On another note, i work with a wicked promotions company called Alchemy - they got a finger deep in a whole load of pies - Funk, Soul, Motown, Rock n Roll...as well as bigging up a whole load of upcoming local acts. I know the main man is proper connected and he just loves music of most genres. Passionate some might say. If you're after a bit of advice or DJs/bands etc...Alchemy would be a good bet. Drop em a line at alchemyentertainment@hotmail.com - top lot!! Harking back to the original question...DNR Live would be a good venue. They already got independent Funk and Mod promoters doin stuff there (amongst others) - Northern Soul would slip in as if it was lubricated! Get in touch with John (i think) at Dove and Rainbow - he'll sort you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulgirl Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 1st prize awarded to Northern Soul.... firstly for flying the flag for vinly then promptly offering to send CD's LOL. Secondly for mentioning that he's a moderator over at soulsource on more than one occasion... actually, that only achieves a bronze plaque. It's the same old arguement from the anoraks and the same response from those who have moved with the times. Good on ya sheffieldforum If I don't make it back alive from Prestatyn please offer this post as evidence to the police investigating my murder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossman Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 1st prize awarded to Northern Soul.... firstly for flying the flag for vinly then promptly offering to send CD's LOL. Secondly for mentioning that he's a moderator over at soulsource on more than one occasion... actually, that only achieves a bronze plaque. It's the same old arguement from the anoraks and the same response from those who have moved with the times. Good on ya sheffieldforum If I don't make it back alive from Prestatyn please offer this post as evidence to the police investigating my murder You be carefull and keep away from Northern Soul you'll recognise him as he'll be the 1 wearing 36" flares soul bags a white vest with patches of all the soul nights he wished he'd been to and 1 that applies especially to him the Keeper of the faith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernSoul Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 1st prize awarded to Northern Soul.... firstly for flying the flag for vinly then promptly offering to send CD's LOL. Secondly for mentioning that he's a moderator over at soulsource on more than one occasion... actually, that only achieves a bronze plaque. It's the same old arguement from the anoraks and the same response from those who have moved with the times. Good on ya sheffieldforum If I don't make it back alive from Prestatyn please offer this post as evidence to the police investigating my murder sorry for the boring reply but i aint against cd's for home entertainment. i just dont believe you should dj at a northern event with them. karen, i wont murder you at prestatyn but i will ask why you are on a sheffield forum?? see you in sunny wales next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Intent Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 karen, i wont murder you at prestatyn but i will ask why you are on a sheffield forum?? see you in sunny wales next week That's funny coming from someone who live's in Worksop Sorry i couldn't make Ponds Forge to buy you the drink last night, was at another northern night in Barnsley & it wasn't very good to say the least. Should have known better:( How was Ponds Forge? See you in Prestatyn, i'll be the one wearing the "I AM PETE SMITH" T shirt:hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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