The Yorkshire Ripper

[doncasterman]

3 hours ago, Paddy'O said:

yes That's right.

 

A  few years ago i went to the library to look at old newspapers because i too believed she may have been a ripper victim. It said that she was hit over the head but it didn't say she was hit by a hammer. Also there were no stab wounds. She did not die at the scene of the attack. She went home and to bed and she died in the morning. I suppose she could have been a ripper victim, but it feels unlikely.

[Hots on]

What became of Olivia Reivers, does anyone know?

[Paddy'O]

On 28/01/2019 at 13:31, doncasterman said:

A  few years ago i went to the library to look at old newspapers because i too believed she may have been a ripper victim. It said that she was hit over the head but it didn't say she was hit by a hammer. Also there were no stab wounds. She did not die at the scene of the attack. She went home and to bed and she died in the morning. I suppose she could have been a ripper victim, but it feels unlikely.

She didn't go to her own bed,she managed to crawl to a house on Christchurch road area of someone she knew,they put her to bed where she died from a terrible head wound.

[doncasterman]

1 hour ago, Paddy'O said:

She didn't go to her own bed,she managed to crawl to a house on Christchurch road area of someone she knew,they put her to bed where she died from a terrible head wound.

Any idea which weapon was used?

[Annie Bynnol]

On ‎27‎/‎01‎/‎2019 at 13:57, doncasterman said:

Then why did he go back to the red light area? The previous prostitute he killed was in 1978. He knew the police would be all over the red light districts.

He was not caught in or near a "red light" area.

Your theory fails because she directed him from Broomhall Street  in the "red light" area,  passed many "suitable" locations in the "red light" area to an area unknown to him.

What he did not know was at the time, and I was there, the Police presence in Broomhill was considerable and very obvious because of the threat to young women* making their way to/from Hunters Bar and some Halls of Residence to the Broomhill pubs, the University and Hospitals.

 

She certainly knew where she was going. He had lost control over the situation and got caught.

 

Nobody who knew the area then or now, would give any mileage to this attempt to create yet another myth in which he "... intended to get caught that night." He was caught in the car park of offices in Broomhill off Melbourne. A very quiet lane noted by the Police for being a "lovers lane". 

 

*There would still be many foreign and post grad students around on January 2nd.

 

[max]

I was there on the morning he was caught, or rather there twice bracketing the time he was caught. I was delivering mail to the offices along there and we used to drop the mail off first thing and then return later to deliver the items which needed signing for.

 

Between the first and second visit must have been when the police arrested him as on the second visit there was police tape around the drive of one of the offices and I was not allowed access.

[doncasterman]

7 hours ago, Annie Bynnol said:

He was not caught in or near a "red light" area.

Your theory fails because she directed him from Broomhall Street  in the "red light" area,  passed many "suitable" locations in the "red light" area to an area unknown to him.

What he did not know was at the time, and I was there, the Police presence in Broomhill was considerable and very obvious because of the threat to young women* making their way to/from Hunters Bar and some Halls of Residence to the Broomhill pubs, the University and Hospitals.

 

She certainly knew where she was going. He had lost control over the situation and got caught.

 

Nobody who knew the area then or now, would give any mileage to this attempt to create yet another myth in which he "... intended to get caught that night." He was caught in the car park of offices in Broomhill off Melbourne. A very quiet lane noted by the Police for being a "lovers lane". 

 

*There would still be many foreign and post grad students around on January 2nd.

 

I am entitled to my opinion. Just because you disagree does not mean you are right. I think your theory fails as he did pick reivers up in the red light area.

[Annie Bynnol]

34 minutes ago, doncasterman said:

I am entitled to my opinion. Just because you disagree does not mean you are right. I think your theory fails as he did pick reivers up in the red light area.

I don't have a theory. I have a set of facts as reported locally, nationally, in the courts, in written statements, in biographies and court summaries, written or told nearly 40 years ago. Like "max" we lived/ frequented the area throughout that period, and while theories and opinions flooded the York, Broomhill Tavern etc. nobody came up with yours.

You have a theory based on an opinion which is contradicted by your last statement. Surely if he intended to be caught, he would not have left the "red light area". 

 

Any opinion that seeks to suggest that he wanted to be caught is contrary to his own police statements and his defence and his submissions during the trial.

Such an opinion is worrying in that it will be perceived to promote a view that he was remorseful of his actions. He was not.

[doncasterman]

53 minutes ago, Annie Bynnol said:

I don't have a theory. I have a set of facts as reported locally, nationally, in the courts, in written statements, in biographies and court summaries, written or told nearly 40 years ago. Like "max" we lived/ frequented the area throughout that period, and while theories and opinions flooded the York, Broomhill Tavern etc. nobody came up with yours.

You have a theory based on an opinion which is contradicted by your last statement. Surely if he intended to be caught, he would not have left the "red light area". 

 

Any opinion that seeks to suggest that he wanted to be caught is contrary to his own police statements and his defence and his submissions during the trial.

Such an opinion is worrying in that it will be perceived to promote a view that he was remorseful of his actions. He was not.

 

I have never read anything about him being caught away from the red light area. One of the other posters said he was caught close to the red light area. How the hell would you know if nobody shares the same opinion as me. Are you god or something. You seem to be one of those people who believes that you know everything. 

[melthebell]

41 minutes ago, doncasterman said:

 

I have never read anything about him being caught away from the red light area. One of the other posters said he was caught close to the red light area. How the hell would you know if nobody shares the same opinion as me. Are you god or something. You seem to be one of those people who believes that you know everything. 

he was caught close to, not in, which part do you fail to understand?

also you keep saying he was trying to get caught, he wasnt, its decades old common knowledge that he hid his "tools" both at the scene and in the police station. are you a flat earther too? you seem to have your own opinion on the story and despite how many facts are given to you you want to believe your version no matter what