mr_busdriver Posted March 18, 2008 Author Share Posted March 18, 2008 Hey chaps calm down, I'm wanting to know who St Partick is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyhippy Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Hey chaps calm down, I'm wanting to know who St Partick is. Clearly the man who found thistles in Glasgow. Partick Thistle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyesey Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Yes, that's true, Heyesey. I can't face life. I need booze. I need booze. Help me someone, I need booze. According to Heyesey I can't function without it. No. According to YOU you can't function without it. Go on, Heyesey. Are you saying that you have given up booze and that the greater questions are answered by cold, sober contemplation? I gave up on booze because I don't like the stuff, but even when I drank, I never drank to excess. Nor do countless billions of other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witham Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Well, that's a good point, Heyesey. There's no point to drinking to excess. The only point to serious drinking of alcohol is to shed the overbearing weight of consciousness when that burden becomes too much. If it wasn't for the release that alcohol delivers I sincerely doubt that civilisation - western or otherwise - would have gotten as far as it has. Booze gives one the green light to down tools and steep oneself in momentary imbecility, in order that one can emerge later, refreshed and eager to face the responsibilities which accompany sentience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_busdriver Posted March 19, 2008 Author Share Posted March 19, 2008 Whitham + Heyesey You both fighting like 2 spotty teen boys, who are wanting the final remaining front row seat, at the Spearmint Rhino. Calm down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witham Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 I've calmed down. Everything I posted last night was whilst under the influence. Hope I didn't offend anyone, but I'm sure I did somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_busdriver Posted March 20, 2008 Author Share Posted March 20, 2008 I've calmed down. Everything I posted last night was whilst under the influence. Hope I didn't offend anyone, but I'm sure I did somewhere. I got offended, so I think you owe me compensation. pay 40p and I'll make a full recovery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyhippy Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 I got offended, so I think you owe me compensation. pay 40p and I'll make a full recovery Make sure he's got his pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicminnie Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 I'm Irish and never really celebrated St Patrick's Day too much. Maybe out for a few drinks with mates, but certainly no green and no jigging! This year I was in the States for St Paddy's Day and I have never seen anything like it....people dressed up as leprachauns all over the place & Irish "heritage" being flaunted to anyone who would listen. Can anyone explain to me how it is possible to be one third irish??? You'd be amazed how many americans claim to be 1/3 irish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johncocker Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Patrick was a traitor ireland !! he destroyed the brehon laws and replaced it with the vile sanchus mor Patrick was a Christian priest whose job it was to convert the population of Ireland to Christianity. The Druids, however, stood in his way. The Druids were very important people in Ireland at that time, and their symbol was the Snake of Wisdom. Druids could be priests of the old religion of Ireland, but there were also much more. One part of the Druid class were the "Bards", whose job it was to remember all of the history of the people, as well as to record current events. Because the Irish Celts did not rely on a written language, everything had to be memorized. Bards were poets and musicians, and used music and poetry to help them remember their history exactly. Because of this, Bards were highly respected members of the Irish society. The Irish believed that history was very important, for if you didn't remember what had happened in the past, you couldn't safely plan for the future. Bards, therefore, held the future of the people in safekeeping. Another important part of the Druidic class were the "Brehons". Brehons were the Judges and the Keepers of the Laws. The Celtic people had a highly complicated society, and with it, a highly developed set of laws. Brehons trained for many years to learn the laws of the people, so that whenever there was a dispute, the Brehon could fairly decide the matter and make peace. The laws were there to make sure that everyone; man, woman, and child, were treated fairly and with respect. Because of the wisdom that the Brehons held, and the knowledge of the laws of the society, they too, like the Bards, were held with much respect. And, of course, there were the Druid Priests. This branch of the Druid set were the keepers of the knowledge of Earth and Spirits. It was their responsibility to learn the Spirit World, in order to keep people and Earth in harmony. Priests performed marriages and "baptisms", they were healers, and psychiatrists. The Priests were the wise grandparents to whom you could go with a problem. They were there to help you solve them, with the help of the Earth and the Spirit World. Into this world of the Irish Celts entered a highly energetic and devoted Christian Priest named Patrick. Because he believed so strongly in the tenets of Christianity, he thought that anyone who was not Christian had to become one in order to be "saved". He came to Ireland to convert the Irish people to Christianity. The Irish people at that time were happy and doing quite well without Patrick and his ideas, but he was persistent. He noticed that the Druids were really the important people of the society. He thought that if he could convert the Druids to Christianity, the rest of the people would follow. Patrick's main problem was that the Druids were very comfortable with what they had already learned, and were not willing to change. Druids had spent their entire lives learning the ways of the people, and were the last people who were willing to change. Although Patrick was not willing to abandon his vision of a Christian Ireland, he was getting desperate. He knew that because the strength of the people rested with the Druids, he had to get rid of them in order to get the people to listen to him. Patrick was not alone in his efforts. He had brought many people with him from Britain to establish the new religion. Patrick began to destroy the influence of the Druids by destroying the sacred sites of the people and building churches and monasteries where the Druids used to live and teach. Gradually, the might of the Druidic class was broken by a bitter campaign of attrition. Instead of hearing the teachings and advice of the Druids, the people began to hear the teachings of Rome. Because the Druids were the only ones who were taught to remember the history, with the Druids dead and their influence broken, the history was forgotten. Patrick won. By killing off the teachers and the wise ones, his own religion could be taught. For this mass conversion of a culture to Christianity, and for the killing of thousands of innocent people, Patrick was made a Saint by his church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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