donuticus Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Jazz : The last refuge of the talentless. Just below the Channel Five News production team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epiphany Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Jazz : The last refuge of the talentless. Just below the Channel Five News production team. What an ignorant post! Talentless? Are you comparing the talent of the jazz greats to your musical talent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviathan13 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 What an ignorant post! Talentless? Are you comparing the talent of the jazz greats to your musical talent? Typical! They probably enjoy the mundane "talents" of Westlife or the easy listening of The Killers or summat. You know, artists who get by performing bland formulaic pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donuticus Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 What an ignorant post! Talentless? Are you comparing the talent of the jazz greats to your musical talent? To be fair the quote isn't mine its Tony Wilson's. But I have to say I agree with him. My own lack of musical talent has nothing to with my dislike of Jazz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviathan13 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 To be fair the quote isn't mine its Tony Wilson's. But I have to say I agree with him. My own lack of musical talent has nothing to with my dislike of Jazz. Enlighten us as to what aural delights you pleaseure yourself with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_Alex Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Those who know me understand that I have a near pathological hatred of jazz. We won't go near bars or restaurants that have it on and if four middle aged blokes start playing different tunes simultaneously while other middle aged men tap their toes and nod their heads... well we have to leave quickly Am I alone? No you're not. My untrained ear just hears a cacophany of noise, and like snook says, "like a blues band falling down stairs" but still trying to play their instruments. I had a couple of years working afternoons with radio Hallam blaring out this God forsaken racket on certain evenings. Oh! the bad old days (sorry Jane x) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donuticus Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Enlighten us as to what aural delights you pleaseure yourself with. As a general rule I don't listen to music. For whatever reason it just doesn't connect with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 i love jazz...i have loads on vinyl and cd as has been said.jazz is a huuuuuge genre of mausic and spans from the 1900s (ragtime, scott joplin, the entertainer etc) right up to now and freenoise (which is big in sheffield at the minute i believe) where they take noise, metal, punk, techno etc and use a jazz style structure. i haphazard a guess that the type of jazz moaned at here is the free / improvised jazz which can be classed as noise, but i love it...its great head**** music such as ornette coleman, sun ra, john zorn, pat methany etc. jazz can be chilled tho...check out miles davis - kind of blue or sketches in spain...both excellent albums and so chilled out its unreal. also you could go for some 1930s / 1940s / 1950s jazz - trad / be bop etc stuff like duke ellingon, count basie, glenn miller CANNOT be classed as noisy or a bit of billy holiday http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4ZyuULy9zs this is a great jazz song and one of the finest anti racism songs ever.....very very sad and moving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddycoffee Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 It is understandable to me as to why people can be baffled by jazz. I am a jazz lover, and have sometimes played in a jazz band or even made straight music sound more jazz like to make it less bland. As a musiscian I have frequently been bored by music which is the same as all other kinds of music, and Jazz often hits the spot with something extra which makes the world better again. I would like to recommend Ken Clark's jazz greats programme which is currently on one lunchtime a week on BBC radio 4. He explains about the life and music of one of his jazz heroes. It is very informative and the Ex-Chancellor is a real expert. We have had Billy Strayhorn, Bix Beiderbeck, Sonny Rollins, and many more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty_Boosh Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 I think jazz has a bad reputation, everyone seems to think of these scat singers or the fast show parody when jazz is mentioned, when jazz is as broad a spectrum as the term "rock", you have billy holiday, miles davies et all at one end of the spectrum to your likes of mahavishnu orchestra, then artists such as John Zorn, Mike Patton, Joey Baron,Shelley Hirsch etc. who are at the extreme edge of Jazz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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