Halibut Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Im sure we could do a deal with the Yanks and Jordan where the Yanks invent some charge against him, then ask for his extradition to the states which we would oblige( the same as we did when we sent Hamza and his mates over there on a one way ticket ), then Jordan could request his presence ,and im certain the Yanks would be all too happy to boot him onto the first plane heading to Jordan . You really don't give a flying one about due process do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Im sure we could do a deal with the Yanks and Jordan where the Yanks invent some charge against him, then ask for his extradition to the states which we would oblige( the same as we did when we sent Hamza and his mates over there on a one way ticket ), then Jordan could request his presence ,and im certain the Yanks would be all too happy to boot him onto the first plane heading to Jordan . He can go where he likes. I'm just sick of paying for it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penistone999 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 You really don't give a flying one about due process do you? Not when it comes to people like Qutada and Hamza . I couldnt care less if the Jordanians put a sack over his head and locked him in a cold, dark cell full of rats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem8634 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Im sure we could do a deal with the Yanks and Jordan where the Yanks invent some charge against him, then ask for his extradition to the states which we would oblige( the same as we did when we sent Hamza and his mates over there on a one way ticket ), then Jordan could request his presence ,and im certain the Yanks would be all too happy to boot him onto the first plane heading to Jordan . I really don't know why you want rid of him so much, with your penchant for illegality and murder it sounds as though you would make great friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Not when it comes to people like Qutada and Hamza . I couldnt care less if the Jordanians put a sack over his head and locked him in a cold, dark cell full of rats. Bet you'd do it yourself given the chance wouldn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Bet you'd do it yourself given the chance wouldn't you? i bet theres a few more too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 i bet theres a few more too Anjem Choudray, I'd have his meat and two in a rat cage without blinking. Qatada, can't stand the man but we have played a game with him so costly as it has been getting rid of him right is probably the correct course of action. Choudray, hungry rats and a cage round his balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Talker Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 No evidence. He even thinks Qatada is a British citizen when in fact he's Jordanian. but no matter what ethnicity or what country he is from, when he is in the UK, surely his rights are to be treated with the same laws that apply to the British, which is that he can't be extradited on the dodgy and unreliable evidence "extracted -under-torture". I as a Briton, would not expect to be extradited on the evidence of someone who has given that evidence under torture, and, whatever his status, and whether or not he has committed a crime, a) he is innocent until proven guilty, and b) has the right not to be extradited upon unreliable evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 but no matter what ethnicity or what country he is from, when he is in the UK, surely his rights are to be treated with the same laws that apply to the British, which is that he can't be extradited on the dodgy and unreliable evidence "extracted -under-torture". I as a Briton, would not expect to be extradited on the evidence of someone who has given that evidence under torture, and, whatever his status, and whether or not he has committed a crime, a) he is innocent until proven guilty, and b) has the right not to be extradited upon unreliable evidence. I do think that "universal human rights" that apply to any old toerag as soon as they bole up in Europe is a fundamentally flawed concept. We're just encouraging them to come here and that is clearly not needed with the economic situation we find ourselves in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Talker Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I do think that "universal human rights" that apply to any old toerag as soon as they bole up in Europe is a fundamentally flawed concept. We're just encouraging them to come here and that is clearly not needed with the economic situation we find ourselves in. Sorry, but, no. Absolutely, "No!" Either everyone has human rights, or no-one can have human rights. You can't pick and choose who gets them. they have to apply to everyone, or we cannot describe ourselves as being civilised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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