HeadingNorth Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Its because of the way we share inteligence with the US why we cannot put him on trial. If what we knew was to go to court no doubt it would compromise how intelligence is gathered and probably put our own as well as American lives at risk. In the UK we have one of the best legal systems in the world ... Apparently we don't any more. It's become acceptable to lock a man up for eight years without ever putting him on trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hard2miss Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Apparently we don't any more. It's become acceptable to lock a man up for eight years without ever putting him on trial. Its a one off, better than having him talk someone into blowing themselves up as well as your wife and kids up I suppose. Sometimes the end justifies the means as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Its a one off, better than having him talk someone into blowing themselves as well as your wife and kids up I suppose. Sometimes the end justifies the means as they say. But they're always wrong. It doesn't. Destroying the western way of life was the ends - of the terrorists. We've given them what they wanted by abandoning our own legal system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hard2miss Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 But they're always wrong. It doesn't. Destroying the western way of life was the ends - of the terrorists. We've given them what they wanted by abandoning our own legal system. Who says its abandoned ? Its just circumvented to allow us to deal with what we know but dare not prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Oh just ours ? that's aright then. So you don't think bringing kids up to believe something that would be detrimental to the society and world they are in is not abusing your parental responsibility ? Why would it matter what Halibut believes? He's not a social worker. The social workers don't believe that Abu Qatada's children are in any danger; that's self-evident, because they've never tried to take them away from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 It's irrelevant whether anyone doubts it or not. We do not imprison people without trial. I thought we did and that's why it was being discussed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 The problem isn't that he may himself be tortured. The problem is that the evidence against him may well have been obtained by torture. We do not, and under no circumstances should we ever, send people to face a trial that isn't a fair trial by our own standards. how many people did we lock up by fabricated evidence by our own police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hard2miss Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Why would it matter what Halibut believes? He's not a social worker. The social workers don't believe that Abu Qatada's children are in any danger; that's self-evident, because they've never tried to take them away from him. He has not been round them because he has been locked up for our own protection, now he is out it should be looked into whether we should think about the protection of the children. The reason It matters what Halibut believes, if you have read it, is because he is of the opinion that sending this man to Jordan is wrong for the sake of his children, maintaining this man's human rights once more, namely his right to family life here. So we should consider this man's right to family life while he is out saying ours should all be killed ? I say get rid of him and if his wife wishes to leave with the kids and follow him it his her choice, but keeping him here for their benefit should be of no consideration to us at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferno Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 My first thought the other day was a rolling pin up his jaxie... But no... How much time do you spend thinking about putting things up mens' bottoms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 So we should consider this man's right to family life while he is out saying ours should all be killed ? Unless you're as evil as he is, then obviously yes you should. Otherwise what exactly do you think he's doing that's wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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