Planner1 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Well, that's not correct. A small number of people initially asked for a scheme. From that, the council were quite happy to accept the inference that the entire area wanted it. They choose to sit on whichever side of the fence suits them best at that moment. No, that is not correct. Sufficient people asked for a scheme in Hilllsborough for the Council to consult over a wide area to ascertain whether local people really wanted a scheme and exactly what area it should cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeowl1979 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Residents in the area were asked..... but who should vote for what scheme where..............Are you wanting to vote against the scheme in an area so you can park on side roads rather than use a car park or a park and ride? because if that's the case are you saying I should also have the right to vote for a parking permit scheme on the road that you live? ps My reasons for wanting the scheme were that we were a free park and ride and dumping ground, now its 2 hours free parking and its LOADS better, If people coming to the area had had a little consideration for residents none of us would have asked for it... I also think that the Hawksley rd car park should have stayed free by the way if you want to overstay the hours its choose a match day because thats when you rarely see parking ticket officers - grrrrrrrrr Consultation took place based on the requests of some people in specific roads, yes. But as others have said, the whole area was consulted with a survey packed with loaded questions and inferences that permits would allieviate parking problems - in some cases this was seen as misleading as it encouraged thoughts of a greater chance of a parking space (whereas the situation actually remains the same, only paid for). I don't doubt that some areas required permit parking - but the wider Hillsborough area certainly did not - not during the hours of 8am - 6pm anyway. I'd love to know how many people who lived on roads that weren't directly around the Hawksley Road/Precinct/Hillsborough Corner area actually requested permit parking in the first instance. I really would be keen to see where the original requests came from. There is little to suggest that initial requests from a small minority of Hillsborough residents has been anything but exploited for financial gain by the council. As I've said elsewhere on this thread, some people on our road and a neighbouring road have apparently "requested" inclusion - yet you drive down either Winster Road or Parkside Road in normal business hours - the very hours the scheme is covering - and you will see plenty of open space on the road for cars to park - and that's even with tradesmem vehicles & skips regularly in situ. I am serious - if the council say this is coming in on our road, I will fight it and fight it hard - video evidence and legal advice on how to prove the council wrong on the issue will be sought. It's exploitation at it's finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litotes Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 No, that is not correct. Sufficient people asked for a scheme in Hilllsborough for the Council to consult over a wide area to ascertain whether local people really wanted a scheme and exactly what area it should cover. How many is sufficient? 1%, 10% despite asking, we've never had an answer. Perhaps you could talk to the person who decided to consult and report to us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matsalleh Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 As Amey seem to be in the process of preventing everyone including permit holders from parking,and or entering and leaving our small area will the council provide alternate secure parking areas?As after all we have already paid to park in Hillsborough,or will they make the 2 carparks in the park be free to permit hoilders for the time of disruption.What I have seen of the other jobs this should only be for about 3 years. As you all know alternative parking is scarce as the council seem hell bent in covering Sheffield with parking zones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penistone999 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 As Amey seem to be in the process of preventing everyone including permit holders from parking,and or entering and leaving our small area will the council provide alternate secure parking areas?As after all we have already paid to park in Hillsborough,or will they make the 2 carparks in the park be free to permit hoilders for the time of disruption.What I have seen of the other jobs this should only be for about 3 years. As you all know alternative parking is scarce as the council seem hell bent in covering Sheffield with parking zones. Also will they refund you part of your permit charge for the time you are unable to park on your own street. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matsalleh Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Also will they refund you part of your permit charge for the time you are unable to park on your own street. ? Plus expenses for having to drive around looking for spaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litotes Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 No no no no no A permit does not guarantee a parking space... The council sell more permits than there are spaces - don't you know that? And before anyone says they don't - they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda1 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Dare I ask can a decision on permit parking be overturned if residents were to petition against the permits? Would this be taken seriously? And I agree with the above comment the shops are dissapering fast in hillsborough but the ladies of hillsborough should be looking fab with all hairdressers and nail/beauty places! If people have to pay to park they ll just end up at asda up hill ---------- Post added 24-04-2013 at 21:51 ---------- I think you are wrong. Residents are generally satisfied with permit parking schemes. Who's satisfied? I here on a daily basis people complaining about these permits and I m a hillsborough resident! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Dare I ask can a decision on permit parking be overturned if residents were to petition against the permits? Would this be taken seriously? And I agree with the above comment the shops are dissapering fast in hillsborough but the ladies of hillsborough should be looking fab with all hairdressers and nail/beauty places! If people have to pay to park they ll just end up at asda up hill The Councillors consider all petitions. There have never been any large petitions to remove a permit scheme, but, in areas where schemes were being consulted on, where the majority of people on particular roads asked not to be included in a scheme, the Councillors acted in accordance with those requests. So, there is ample evidence that the Councillors listen and act on local opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penistone999 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 The Councillors consider all petitions. There have never been any large petitions to remove a permit scheme, but, in areas where schemes were being consulted on, where the majority of people on particular roads asked not to be included in a scheme, the Councillors acted in accordance with those requests. So, there is ample evidence that the Councillors listen and act on local opinions. Shame they dont adopt the same policy when it comes to public opinion on the proposed NEXT and IKEA developments. There the council adopt a policy of putting their fingers in their ears and shouting blah, blah ,blah were not listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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