Cyclone Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Fake fur isn't as good, but it still does not give the right to wear real fur which is completely on top. If you saw the channel 4 program the other night I suspect you were as horrified as me to see live animals being skinned and still being alive without their skin after. If you are anti fur and did not watch it then seriously DONT! If you are pro fur then watch it and I promise you that you will change your mind unless you are pure scum personified! This is an argument to enforce animal treatment laws though isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEKRO138 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I'm happy to walk around in a leather jacket but there's no way I'd wear fur. I don't know why that is. Apart from the fact I'd look ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNM Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Presumably you'd suggest this on some sort of animal rights level? If we banned fur (from non endangered species obviously) then we'd have to go down the route of banning leather, gelatin, glue, meat, and so on. Why would we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNM Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 This is an argument to enforce animal treatment laws though isn't it? Yep there is that too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaFoot Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 It's a no vote for me. Here's why: Some of the treatment animals produced for fur is horrendous, no doubt. The best way to deal with that is to enforce animal cruelty laws and restrict imports to those from cruelty free producers (yes, that means inspections etc) in a similar way that some tuna tins are labelled 'dolphin friendly' for example. Let the buyers of fur bear the cost. Ban fur, what next? As Cyclone points out, wouldn't we then have to ban leather coats? Our government is all too keen to ban things and add more laws rather than trying to enforce existing rules. Let people choose for themselves and stop treating the British people as incapable of making their own descisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigmason Posted August 12, 2008 Author Share Posted August 12, 2008 Presumably you'd suggest this on some sort of animal rights level? If we banned fur (from non endangered species obviously) then we'd have to go down the route of banning leather, gelatin, glue, meat, and so on. no because leather, gelatin, glue, meat are the result of the food industry were the whole of the animal is used the only reason we have real fur is for fashion no other part of the animal is used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 no because leather, gelatin, glue, meat are the result of the food industry were the whole of the animal is used the only reason we have real fur is for fashion no other part of the animal is used Is that because you can't eat mink? Some earlier said that we've always eaten meat. We've also 'always' (since developing tools) used animal skins to protect ourselves. It's as natural as anything else we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodens Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Why is it OK to kill an animal for it's flesh but not it's fur and why is it OK to use by-products, leather shoes etc. These "moral dilemmas" are quite bewildering - it's a wonder how some people manage to sleep at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macduff Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I agree, but I think alot of the objection would be removed if all animals were dealt with in a humane way, the pictures of dogs being skinned alive in China must upset the majority of people in the West. I\'ve spent most of my life shooting all sorts of game, not an exact science, but endevour at all times to make sure as little suffering as possible takes place and that the meat derived is eaten.I too have spent a lot of my life looking down the barrels of a shot gun or a rifle, and despite acknowledging the satisfaction that comes from allowing my instinctive urges to be satisfied, I abhor deliberate cruelty. I don’t suppose the anti-brigade can quite get their worked-up little minds round that, but I care little for limited views of the perpetual complainers of this world. If an animal is raised in reasonable conditions and surroundings, and its end comes via a painless (or at least rapid and panic-free) method of despatch, then all is well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shh! Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 How lovely that we can have a mature debate without name-calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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