Runningman Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, stifflersmom said: Snowdon from the top of Kinder Scout... http://portervalleydaydreams.blogspot.com/2017/02/snowdon-as-seen-from-kinder-scout.html?m=1 Good morning stifflersmom and thanks for that ! WOW would be my comment !!!!!!!!!!!!! Wonder what sort of long distance views could be possible prior to the smoke of the Industrial Revolution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 3 hours ago, stifflersmom said: Snowdon from the top of Kinder Scout... http://portervalleydaydreams.blogspot.com/2017/02/snowdon-as-seen-from-kinder-scout.html?m=1 Great that - I find it a bit spooky tho in a weird way. the images In your post and the ones above all look quite ghostly in the distance.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stifflersmom Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just to clarify, the blog post is not mine. It is incredible what can be observed. I recently saw something about some Alpine being observable from the Pyrenees, a distance of 400 miles or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carosio Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 From the village Isle of Whithorn in SW Scotland, (which is not much above sea level) the snow capped peaks of the lake District can clearly be seen., although a clear winters day is needed. Also from the same area the Mountains of Mourne are visible at about 73 miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie Bynnol Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 14 hours ago, stifflersmom said: Snowdon from the top of Kinder Scout... http://portervalleydaydreams.blogspot.com/2017/02/snowdon-as-seen-from-kinder-scout.html?m=1 Although hills can be seen over great distances, and even further than curvature of the earth would allow. Most "long distance" records are mirages. This photograph exhibits some problems, some explained by foreshortening effect of a mirage. Tryfan and Y Garn are in line when viewed from Kinder Scout. As are Moel Siabod with the much higher Snowdon behind. Tryfan would not stand out as a separate peak as Y Garn, Glyder Fawr and Glyder Fach are in the background and higher than Tryfan. The heights of the mountains v. valleys, the width of the valleys and the massively exaggerated North South arc distance. It takes less than a day to walk from Snowdon to Foel Fras up and down all 14 3000' peaks. Missing in the haze are the following: Manchester, Stockport, Liverpool, the hills at Helsby and Frodsham and Chester The industrial complexes along the Mersey e.g.Widnes, Ellesmere Port, Runcorn, Fiddlers Ferry power station. The have and the foreshortening indicate that this is a photograph of a mirage. On another note. From Black Combe above Silecroft near Barrow you can see Scotland, England, Ireland, IOM, Wales and Yorkshire! "the amplest range of unobstructed prospect may be seen that British ground commands."William Wordsworth. At less than 2000' it is an easy day or night walk with an easy last 1500' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stifflersmom Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 7 hours ago, Annie Bynnol said: Although hills can be seen over great distances, and even further than curvature of the earth would allow. Most "long distance" records are mirages. This photograph exhibits some problems, some explained by foreshortening effect of a mirage. Tryfan and Y Garn are in line when viewed from Kinder Scout. As are Moel Siabod with the much higher Snowdon behind. Tryfan would not stand out as a separate peak as Y Garn, Glyder Fawr and Glyder Fach are in the background and higher than Tryfan. The heights of the mountains v. valleys, the width of the valleys and the massively exaggerated North South arc distance. It takes less than a day to walk from Snowdon to Foel Fras up and down all 14 3000' peaks. Missing in the haze are the following: Manchester, Stockport, Liverpool, the hills at Helsby and Frodsham and Chester The industrial complexes along the Mersey e.g.Widnes, Ellesmere Port, Runcorn, Fiddlers Ferry power station. The have and the foreshortening indicate that this is a photograph of a mirage. On another note. From Black Combe above Silecroft near Barrow you can see Scotland, England, Ireland, IOM, Wales and Yorkshire! "the amplest range of unobstructed prospect may be seen that British ground commands."William Wordsworth. At less than 2000' it is an easy day or night walk with an easy last 1500' Interesting, there is another image from a different source here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/stockportmike/8445407648 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyTup Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) On 12/01/2020 at 20:36, Runningman said: Hi Derby Tup Somewhere on this thread there is a photo of the Welsh mountains viewed from the Snake summit I reckon that must be 70 miles as the crow flies Must attempt to see that view ! Thanks. Yes someone has kindly posted it below. I don't know why I find such things surprising, but I do. And I think it's really fantastic to see this kind of stuff. Although, I bet no one in Snowdonia is looking back the other way saying, "Ooh look! You can see Ringinglow from here!". Edited January 15, 2020 by DerbyTup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie Bynnol Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 On 14/01/2020 at 07:46, stifflersmom said: Interesting, there is another image from a different source here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/stockportmike/8445407648 Yes it is, and this is what you would expect to see. This appears to be the image of the hills and not exaggerated by atmospheric conditions.a m The blue/grey silhouette is normal as are the indistinguishable peaks. In winter, snow is (used to be?) a permanent feature above 3000' along the Glyder and Carneddau tops and this help would pick out lower slopes, cymoedd and ridges. This looks to be happening in this second photo. Helsby and the oil refineries along the Mersey are very visible. The North South arc is more to scale (still exaggerated by foreshortening of the camera lens) Above the Clwyd hills and in the clouds it is just possible to make out the longest 3000' ridge in Wales between Pen yr Ola(u) Wen and Foel Fras. At this distance Tryfan, Glyder Fawr, Glyder Fach would be merged as would Y Garn and Pen yr Ola(u) Wen (all 3000'+). All these peaks are within 2 miles of each other. Snowdon itself would be behind the Tryfan-Glyder Fawr ridge. From Carnedd Llywellyn you can make out the Liverpool the Lancashire Coast (including Blackpool Tower, Heysham PS and Black Combe. The Pennines are more difficult to distinguish as the 2000' flat plateau merges with the horizon. The Forest of Bowland and the Lake District are visible as are the IOM and Wicklow Mountains in Ireland but Ringinglow is impossible. I have not seen The Mourne(NI) and Galloway hills in Scotland as they are below the horizon but have been seen when atmospheric condition refract the light. The best views are always in the evening and in my opinion the widest range of views are from the most isolated 3000' Elidir Fawr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LW950 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 I plan on going to the Ringinglow viewpoint soon before the warmer and hazier weather arrives. I will be bringing 10x50 binoculars with me but I was wondering what landmarks from the viewpoint are easiest to see with the naked eye and binoculars and which ones are the more challenging ones to see. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runningman Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Having been told that during this present situation air pollution has decreased, has anyone observed towards the various locations on the eastern horizon ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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