Noah's Ark closed down

[Andy C]

Thought Noah's Ark was owned by a pub company rather than a brewery?

 

Is bad news. Anyone know what's gone wrong - pub company squeezing the tenant landlord financially? Custom going elsewhere (other pubs or perhaps cheap supermarket booze)? Or is it issues with how the pub is run? Or maybe the landlord has simply had enough?

 

As far as I know the pub has a good reputation.

[Fareast]

The ' pub culture ' seems to be dying the death in the U.K, together with [ picked at random in the early hours ! ]----hunting, old men in pubs playing crib over a pipe and a pint, quiet pubs, cafes serving traditional English food a la the old Butler's, children playing in groups outside, politeness, police walking round the streets, specialist corner shops of all kinds, small travelling fairgrounds and the circuses........Don't want to sound like Victor Meldrew but it does seem rather sad and rather sudden.

 

Oh well, must grab a triple WhamBam Cheeseburger and have a litre of lager in The New Disco Olde English Tavern & Winebar and then stand outside in the rain to have a smoke.

Here's To Merrie England ! Cheers !

[happyhippy]

i'm prob a lot older than you guys (am 49) but i used to go in that pub wen i was 16/17 ( i know i shouldnt) and it was always packed...and as for the cobden view..at about same time i used to go out with a lad wot lived on cobden view road!! but cant remember a pub being there with same name as the road...used to like knockin around crookes area..i worked there at the time...old converted church just above noahs ark pub....used to know some nice folk around there..but you move on....reminicin ere....(hope spelled that right??)

 

The 'Cobbie' has been there for years and years. It's at the bottom end of the road near to School Road, on the left hand side as you go down the hill.

 

The pub trade has been dying on its feet for the last 25 years or so.

[Meaks]

If true, this is very bad news indeed. The Noah's was one of several good boozers on that route.

[H.P]

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[CHAIRBOY]

If true, this is very bad news indeed. The Noah's was one of several good boozers on that route.

 

You can rest assured it's true! Bailiffs?

[espadrille]

Thing is there are such a lot of pubs around there. I bet most go in The Ball and the Cobden.Great folk nights there on a Thursday

[d71146]

The ' pub culture ' seems to be dying the death in the U.K, together with [ picked at random in the early hours ! ]----hunting, old men in pubs playing crib over a pipe and a pint, quiet pubs, cafes serving traditional English food a la the old Butler's, children playing in groups outside, politeness, police walking round the streets, specialist corner shops of all kinds, small travelling fairgrounds and the circuses........Don't want to sound like Victor Meldrew but it does seem rather sad and rather sudden.

 

Oh well, must grab a triple WhamBam Cheeseburger and have a litre of lager in The New Disco Olde English Tavern & Winebar and then stand outside in the rain to have a smoke.

Here's To Merrie England ! Cheers !

 

I think that the 'Fighting' culture has to play a part in all this as well.

[goldenfleece]

The pub trade has been dying on its feet for the last 25 years or so.

 

The industry has changed dramatically this is true, but I would not say its dying, more 'settling' into a new social and cultural framework. You will find pubs closing because many run on very tight profit margins, with very little if any working capital or room for 'industry crisis', and so cannot absorb any sudden 'trends' in custom/trade.

 

This Summer is killing off a lot of good pubs, with the current Credit Crunch set to last a good while longer yet. Also too many pubs try to offer 'cheap' beer, in order to attract more trade, which it does, but then their profit margin is slashed even more and so many just go straight into bankruptcy before they even realize it. The latter is happening a lot......often perfectly good and busy pubs seem to go the wall literally overnight, as they are doing a lot of trade, but not making any actual profit.

 

It may sound as if the reverse should be true. Very quiet pubs sometimes baffle all by continuing to trade in this economic climate, (I am sure we can all think of examples of such) while others which are 3 or 4 times as busy just are boarded up suddenly.

 

For example, a pub selling 'discount' beer that takes 10K a week and is packed all the time may be making next to no profit at all, or even losing money, while one that takes just 3K a week may make a considerably greater profit, and despite being empty most of the time, works as a business model. Swings and roundabouts......

 

There are suburbs where there are lots of pubs all very close together and many engage in 'price wars' to try and 'clean up' and put others out of business by offering cut price beer deals, ie 99p a pint, etc....all that happens is that they clean themselves out!!

(unless they are Weatherspoons and have £90000 billion in the bank and can afford such loss leader deals)

[Andy C]

Price wars are not the way forward these days. If there are several pubs close to one another, they should all make sure they are individual and offer a slightly different experience to the others.

 

Using Bradway as an experience, the Old Mother Redcap is a no frills local with good value prices and comfortable surroundings, the Castle Inn is a cosy, friendly, multi roomed pub with a good choice of real ales and entertainment and the Bradway is a more modern, smart pub focusing on premium food and drink. So each pub isn't competing directly.