Waldo Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I don't understand how anyone can respond to your first post Tony, without first understanding what you mean, when you say 'God'. Also, why would it be presumptuous to define a word (in this case 'God'), surely it aids clarity and helps people to understand each other better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 god's purpose is understand itself and we are part of that process Is that so? Sounds like you have it all worked out there Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quisquose Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Is that so? Sounds like you have it all worked out there Andy. Twas the mice that told him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 Waldo, perhaps it's best if people use their own interpretation of what God / god is to them in the context of the topic in hand. I'm happy to not be prescriptive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 13, 2010 Author Share Posted July 13, 2010 The little blighter is not being at all cooperative. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/large-hadron-collider/7888012/Higgs-boson-discovery-rumours-false-say-Tevatron-scientists.html Higgs boson discovery rumours false, say Tevatron scientists Rumours that the Higgs boson - sometimes called the 'God particle' - has been detected by the Tevatron particle accelerator have been denied. A spokesman for the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory told the Telegraph: "The rumour of evidence for the Higgs boson is just that: a rumour, with no factual basis. "Beyond that, we don't comment on rumours." The origin of the non-rumour is worth a look http://www.science20.com/quantum_diaries_survivor/rumors_about_light_higgs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vague_Boy Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 What happens if some of our greatest minds find science and God in equal measure? Where do we go from there? I vote for the pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 23, 2011 Author Share Posted July 23, 2011 An interesting development was announced yesterday. Something weird has been spotted in data from the LHC - it might be the HB. Researchers at the Large Hadron Collider at Cern, the European particle physics lab near Geneva, announced the findings at a conference on Friday. The world's most powerful atom smasher hunts for signs of new physics by slamming subatomic particles together at nearly the speed of light in an 18-mile round tunnel beneath the French-Swiss border. Speaking at the meeting, teams working on two of the collider's huge detectors, Atlas and CMS, independently reported unusual bumps in their data that could be the first hints of the particle. Physicists stressed that it was too early to know whether the signals were due to the missing particle. http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/jul/22/cern-higgs-boson-god-particle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 But if String theory is correct, we have a very simple model, and elegant model, that is simple and pure and that some people think suggests design … But CERN will not prove either, it just gives us some evidence that the theoretical physics models are correct. It will fall far short of proof. However what CERN can do is disprove String theory. No supersymmetry means no string theory. However then it’s back to the drawing board, we are left with three models that do not gel together very well … so we are back to a very complex system, with no simple way to explain them. Uh-oh - Supersymmetry may have bitten the dust: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14680570 This failure to find indirect evidence of supersymmetry, coupled with the fact that two of the collider's other main experiments have not yet detected supersymmetic particles, means that the simplest version of the theory has in effect bitten the dust. Professor George Smoot, Nobel prizewinner for his work on the cosmic microwave background and one of the world's most respected physicists. "Supersymmetry is an extremely beautiful model. It's got symmetry, it's super and it's been taught in Europe for decades as the correct model because it is so beautiful; but there's no experimental data to say that it is correct." and Dr Joseph Lykken of Fermilab, who is among the conference organisers, says he and others working in the field are "disappointed" by the results - or rather, the lack of them. "There's a certain amount of worry that's creeping into our discussions," he told BBC News. The worry is that the basic idea of supersymmetry might be wrong. "It's a beautiful idea. It explains dark matter, it explains the Higgs boson, it explains some aspects of cosmology; but that doesn't mean it's right. "It could be that this whole framework has some fundamental flaws and we have to start over again and figure out a new direction," he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloomdido Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 An interesting development was announced yesterday. Something weird has been spotted in data from the LHC - it might be the HB. http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/jul/22/cern-higgs-boson-god-particle It very probably is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumkin Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Why is this in Sheffield Chat? I thought the collider is in Switzerland? I would have thought that seeing how a good part of the work done on the theoretical side of this was done in and by Sheffield University made it a good candidate to be in Sheffield Chat......yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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