Nodens Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Driving licenses, although valid until your'e 70 years old, must be renewed every 10 years, otherwise you can be liable of up to a £1000 fine. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1054636/Unwitting-motorists-face-1-000-fines-thousands-photocard-driving-licences-expire.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodens Posted September 11, 2008 Author Share Posted September 11, 2008 I wondered if the same law would apply to the proposed ID cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splodgeyAl Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 amazing - learning something useful from the DM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Considering they're photo driving licences, it's nothing surprising. Mine runs out in six months time and not before time because I don't look muc like my photo after having a "Trinny & Susannah" style makeover a few years back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotPhil Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Nice to see another £20 being charged too. There's no end to the rubbish this government will dream up to hit those who work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newvanandman Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 EU laws on driving licences have been harmonised so that licences have to be renewed initially every 10 years with the option for every five years - in the UK a driving licence is held from passing the test until the age of 70 (when it can be renewed with a doctor's letter). Renewing the licence every 10 years will mean the "chip" and the data on it can be updated and adapted. In the UK a National Health database will hold the records of all 60 million people with over 350,000 "clinicians" having access - as will police and security agencies. The EU is planning a new EU Health Card which will carry a "chip" holding medical details. The EU is keen too on "e-government" cards and much research is being conducted. "Egovernment" gives people access to state services where they have to prove who they are, for example, to get medical or hospital treatment, local government services like libraries, getting social and unemployment benefits and so on. The day may not be far off when all these state-run systems will be put on "one-card": passport, ID card, driving licence, health record and e-government. The Schengen Information System (SIS) is to be upgraded to hold more categories of data (including fingerprints and DNA), access to all the data is to be extended to all agencies (police, immigration and customs).13 SIS II is to share a “common technical platform” with VIS (Visa Information System) for the policing of visitors – thus SIS II/VIS will become a dedicated surveillance tool.14 Discussions to create an EU-PNR (passenger name record) system are underway. In June 2008 the Council threw the Commission proposal out and in the autumn it will draw up its own draft. A number of governments do not like limiting the use of data to terrorism and organised crime and want to extend the proposal’s scope from just in and out of the EU to travel between EU states and even within each state. The same view also supports extending the scope from air travel to land and sea travel too. An EU entry-exit system is planned for third country nationals entering with visas as is an EU version of an Electronic System for Travel Authorisation (ESTA). The former proposal includes the automated checking of EU citizens - that is, passports and biometrics (fingerprints) to be checked by "machines" not people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotPhil Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 I'm pretty sure my driving license has no chip. Is that only in newer ones? So the inference in we'll regularly have to pay extortionate fees for driving licence, passport and ID cards. All easily hackable. All could be incorporated into one card. And the fee's not even value for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaFoot Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 My licence doesn't have a pic... I probably ought to get one of the newer style ones. Then again if I don't get one, presumably I wouldn't have to get a new one every 10 years and be forced to carry an ID card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandem Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Well I still have a paper licence, as I haven't moved house for the last 23 years, I have never had the need to renew, does this mean I will have to upgrade to a picture licence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotPhil Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 I don't think so. Unless you move or have another reason to exchange your paper one it remains valid until you're 70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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