The new Doctor Who

[Deavon]

They have to play forever with the concept of Doctor Who and the Daleks (They were in the 2nd story of the very, very first series with William Hartnell after all)

 

It serves no meaning to discuss why the Daleks don't kill the Doctor.

[mojo1]

Can I suggest that they didn't kill him as essentially it's a family show and not the terminator.

 

Children would have cried.

 

 

that and (as much as I love it) it's not real!

[taxman]

Can I suggest that they didn't kill him as essentially it's a family show and not the terminator.

 

Children would have cried.

 

 

that and (as much as I love it) it's not real!

 

But they didn't even try!

 

A decent writer could have had the Dr escape without recourse to a jammy dodger and a crap shot.

[mojo1]

But they didn't even try!

 

A decent writer could have had the Dr escape without recourse to a jammy dodger and a crap shot.

 

It was a set up the new Daleks thing, it was filler. We all know it was filler.

Everyone loves a good Dalek episode and we're all disappointed when it's not what we want it to be. To be fair the first episode he told a planet destroying race to sod off and they did, while he was changing his tie and had no access to the Tardis or even his much overused sonic screwdriver! They could have shot him too.

 

The Doctor doesn't get shot (except on those rare occasions when he does), it's as simple as that.

 

Why?

 

Because he's the Doctor

[plekhanov]

Can I suggest that they didn't kill him as essentially it's a family show and not the terminator.

 

Children would have cried.

 

 

that and (as much as I love it) it's not real!

Terminator or otherwise people get killed on Dr Who all the time, in this very episode several soldiers were shown being killed by the Daleks.

 

Clearly we aren't complaining that the Doctor wasn't shot and killed 3 episodes into his run. The complaint is that the writers created a situation in which he absolutely should have been shot and killed but wasn't, they didn't even try to shoot him. Plausible Dalek behaviour would have been:

 

Blam Dalek shoots and kills the Doctor

"the scan revealed no self destruct device."

 

Instead the Dalek said:

 

Scan reveals nothing

 

and then simply sat their like a lemon waiting for the Doctor to assist his allies and then escape. That is terrible writing.

Edited April 21, 2010 by plekhanov
grammar

[plekhanov]

It was a set up the new Daleks thing, it was filler. We all know it was filler.

Everyone loves a good Dalek episode and we're all disappointed when it's not what we want it to be. To be fair the first episode he told a planet destroying race to sod off and they did, while he was changing his tie and had no access to the Tardis or even his much overused sonic screwdriver! They could have shot him too.

But that would have been a very stupid and out of character thing for the Atraxi to do.

 

The Atraxi in that episode were heavy handed police/military willing to take out the earth (which so far as they knew was an insignificant primitive planet) as collateral damage such was the import they placed on getting Prisoner Zero. They weren't depicted as malevolent or as having any quarrel with humanity.

 

When the Doctor demonstrated to them that the earth was important to him a vastly powerful being who could come back from the dead, it would have made no sense for them to open hostilities with him. With Prisoner Zero taking care of (with the Doctor's assistance) getting the hell out of there without further antagonising a tetchy time lord made perfect sense.

 

In contrast the Daleks have been at war with the Time Lords and Doctor by shooting him they wouldn't have been starting a war they couldn't win they'd have been finishing a war they began a long time ago.

 

The Doctor doesn't get shot (except on those rare occasions when he does), it's as simple as that.

 

Why?

 

Because he's the Doctor

Clearly the lead character in adventure series can't get killed every episode but that doesn't mean it's ok to put them into situations where they absolutely should be killed only for blatant character shields to save them. Good writers craft situations in which the protagonists are placed in dangerous situations which they then believably escape in an exciting manner. If they escape simply because they're the protagonists and therefore their enemies don't shoot them for no reason then that's just rubbish.

 

Contrast this encounter with the Daleks to that in 'The Parting of the Ways' there the Doctor rigged an effective but not invulnerable shield to allow him and Jack to rescue Rose from the Dalek's flagship. The Dalek's attempted to shoot him on sight (as they should have done in this episode) but were prevented by the shield not just "because he's the Doctor"

 

That the shield could be breached at any time if the Daleks figured out how meant we got an exciting face to face confrontation with the Daleks with a real sense of danger in which the characters on the screen acted in believable ways. Excitement and believability were two qualities sadly lacking from this most recent Dalek encounter.

[HeadingNorth]

They have to play forever with the concept of Doctor Who and the Daleks (They were in the 2nd story of the very, very first series with William Hartnell after all)

 

It serves no meaning to discuss why the Daleks don't kill the Doctor.

 

It serves a very good purpose, though, to ask why the episodes are so badly written.

[Paul Blade]

daleks = tellytubbies mk II

 

 

-sorry, this is a PT posting, because paulblade hadn't logged out after using machine grrrr. He- willl beeeeeeeeeeee-ex-ter-mi-nated!

Edited April 22, 2010 by Paul Blade

[Northrend]

Okay so I quite enjoyed victory to the daleks. Maybe I didn't give matt smith a true go..

[scottf]

The new daleks do look like they have had a few too many sunday lunches don't you think?