nichy Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 agree wi tilly blair did this with the smokin ban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony decker Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 It was the other day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimsid2000 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 "Many a pub has to close but it all in the game" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenfleece Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Punch Taverns said it had sold off £91m worth of pubs in the past 35 weeks. The big Companies are shedding tons of their estate at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Punch Taverns said it had sold off £91m worth of pubs in the past 35 weeks. The big Companies are shedding tons of their estate at the moment Im sure their tenants can expect a few price rises soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenfleece Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Im sure their tenants can expect a few price rises soon... They put their beer up all the time and we have to absorb the price rises.....thats just the way it is......fortunately the rent is frozen until 2012, and by then, I doubt very much if Punch Taverns will exist, following the Government in depth probe into beer ties which is taking place right now..... under strict European Law, a 'beer tie' is actually considered illegal, although opinions are divided about how this is actually derived at from the Euro legislation in place.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 They put their beer up all the time and we have to absorb the price rises.....thats just the way it is......fortunately the rent is frozen until 2012, and by then, I doubt very much if Punch Taverns will exist, following the Government in depth probe into beer ties which is taking place right now..... under strict European Law, a 'beer tie' is actually considered illegal, although opinions are divided about how this is actually derived at from the Euro legislation in place.... And there have been a lot of meetings about this recently. This will be going to the commons, but with the recent disclosures about MP's I can see it getting rejected (thanks to back handers from the pubco's) The sooner the pubco's get rid of all their estate stock, then the smaller pubs will have more of a fighting chance - and as you know, I have a lot of experience in this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenfleece Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 [quote=Ghostrider;5000291 The sooner the pubco's get rid of all their estate stock, then the smaller pubs will have more of a fighting chance Punch are selling off at least another 2000, but many of them instead of being unloaded to smaller Pub Co's are being offered individually to the current tenants, which is better than just bulk selling to another Capitalist Militant Organization:thumbsup: And Punch being so fantastically deep in debt are letting some real bargains out too.....there are many stories floating about concerning pub full leases being sold for one penny, it seems to be starting a precedent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Punch are selling off at least another 2000, but many of them instead of being unloaded to smaller Pub Co's are being offered individually to the current tenants, which is better than just bulk selling to another Capitalist Militant Organization:thumbsup: And Punch being so fantastically deep in debt are letting some real bargains out too.....there are many stories floating about concerning pub full leases being sold for one penny, it seems to be starting a precedent...Yep, there was one in the star a while ago (which we talked about)but when you take into account fixture & fittings, stock etc, it makes a big difference. If you could buy a pub for 1p, pay nothing for F&F and stock it from wherever you liked I would be in there like a shot - but it will never happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenfleece Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Yep, there was one in the star a while ago (which we talked about)but when you take into account fixture & fittings, stock etc, it makes a big difference. If you could buy a pub for 1p, pay nothing for F&F and stock it from wherever you liked I would be in there like a shot - but it will never happen... You never know if they get desperate enough!!!! I wonder if there is a world record yet for the number of managers or tenants in one pub during one year.......a fast change of hands every month or so...I think the most changes I know of is one pub in Sheffield that had changed hands 4 times in one year!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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