EdnaKrabappe Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 This is all I have to say on this matter P.S. In order for the school to get the Healthy Schools accreditation mark, it has to be a water only drinking school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluffy74 Posted April 20, 2009 Author Share Posted April 20, 2009 Some staff drink more at this school......search for the thread SCHOOLS IN SPECIAL MEASURES...think this the same school isnt it ? But as stated no one stands up to them and when a simple teaching assisant suddenley becomes the heads personel then come on Think the posts in this thread your referring to have been removed. I have stood up to this school on numerous occasions and was well chuffed when the last head walked. Unfortunately nothing ever changes and you bang your head against a brick wall all too often. My daughter only has this term to go and I am very happy about that. But I won't let this one go I'll take her out of school for remainder of school year if thats what it takes. Its utter nonsense and not something that should be taking the forefront of things when they have their SATS coming up. I know that in the grand scheme of things they don't mean a lot but the kids get so worked up about them and try their hardest the least the school should do is support them and not punish them any further. I ummed and ared about taking my kids out of this school three years ago but didn't have the transport then to take them elsewhere wished I had now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluffy74 Posted April 20, 2009 Author Share Posted April 20, 2009 This is all I have to say on this matter P.S. In order for the school to get the Healthy Schools accreditation mark, it has to be a water only drinking school. Sorry but this school has far greater worries than whether it has the healty schools accreditation mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squiggs Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Sorry but this school has far greater worries than whether it has the healty schools accreditation mark. So there are problems at this school, yet the issue of drinking healthy, natural water is the only one that gets you hot under the collar? Just a thought.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluffy74 Posted April 20, 2009 Author Share Posted April 20, 2009 So there are problems at this school, yet the issue of drinking healthy, natural water is the only one that gets you hot under the collar? Just a thought.... No this is not the only thing that gets me hot under the collar about this school but this is the latest problem to affect my daughter. Looking at another thread on this subject for this school the pre-easter letter on this subject said that only water would be allowed but crisps and chocolate were still fine. How can this be a policy to change the eating habits to a more healty option Just an insight into the farce that is my local primary. The only reason I started this thread was to find out whether it was a city wide scheme as I was told on the phone by the learning mentor or whether she was fobbing me off. From the responses I have got I would say that it is not the only school in Sheffield to implement this ruling but it is nowhere near as commonplace as she made out. Trust me there are lots of other things I have had meetings about with various heads, acting heads and so on but because the management is temporary nobody wants to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex C. Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 You know what makes me laugh? People like you. My daughter is not ill-disciplined and is actually on course to get well over the average marks in her SATS. Quite recently we were told that if she could attain a level 6 in mathematics she would. She is well behaved and has never been in trouble at school. I have never once commented on the decline of education and actually am very pleased with the level of education my child has received at this particular school. I have also never made any comments about the teachers at the school and again am very pleased with their efforts. The fact is she does not like water. She is being punished and will not drink anything at all in school if she is not allowed to drink water with a splash - which I don't think is unreasonable. I'd like to see you force feed something that you dislike - I'm sure you wouldn't see this as ill-disciplined but merely your rights as a human being. Obviously if we were in a third world country I would not be kicking up a fuss but the fact that children across the city have been drinking juice for god knows how many years without harm I fail to see why this needs to be changed now. I generally do work with the school but on this occasion they are wrong and have no substance to back up their decision. My daughter is not unruly because she has 2.6g of sugar in her 250ml of juice per day - it is not disrupting her day and she is not struggling with her work. I fail to see your points and do not like the fact that you assume I generally go against rules. I teach my children good discipline but also teach them right from wrong and in this instance the school is wrong. The best course of action then would be to try and persuade the school to change the rules, whilst asking your daughter to follow them whilst they are in place. Also, as I said - between 8 and 12 is when children form their respect for boundaries and authority. She may become a teenager thinking that if you don't like a rule, it's OK to not follow it, if it's in your best interests, or you can't see the point to it. Your daughter may have both the will-power and the caring family relationship to become a well rounded adult, but many children don't - and if your daughter passes on the message that "my mum says it's OK for me to have flavoured water as long as the teacher can't tell it is" then some of them are going to think it's OK to lie as long as you're not found out. Clearly you are a good parent, and I do respect that. I am not trying to make a point personally against you (in fact, much of the above probably doesn't apply to you, but this is quite a long topic and I'm not trying to single any particular individual viewpoint out), but rather against the seemingly increasing non-support which parents give to their schools. You said earlier that your daughter is sick when she drinks water - if that's the case, then there is clearly a valid reason for her to have flavoured water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 You said earlier that your daughter is sick when she drinks water - if that's the case, then there is clearly a valid reason for her to have flavoured water. If her daughter is sick when she drinks water I'd respectfully suggest that she's having mum for a fool and that mum is falling fot it........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluffy74 Posted April 20, 2009 Author Share Posted April 20, 2009 The best course of action then would be to try and persuade the school to change the rules, whilst asking your daughter to follow them whilst they are in place. Also, as I said - between 8 and 12 is when children form their respect for boundaries and authority. She may become a teenager thinking that if you don't like a rule, it's OK to not follow it, if it's in your best interests, or you can't see the point to it. Your daughter may have both the will-power and the caring family relationship to become a well rounded adult, but many children don't - and if your daughter passes on the message that "my mum says it's OK for me to have flavoured water as long as the teacher can't tell it is" then some of them are going to think it's OK to lie as long as you're not found out. Clearly you are a good parent, and I do respect that. I am not trying to make a point personally against you (in fact, much of the above probably doesn't apply to you, but this is quite a long topic and I'm not trying to single any particular individual viewpoint out), but rather against the seemingly increasing non-support which parents give to their schools. You said earlier that your daughter is sick when she drinks water - if that's the case, then there is clearly a valid reason for her to have flavoured water. When did I put that I would send her with juice and lie. My daughter will be going to school with juice and if anyone asks her she will say it is juice because she cannot drink water. I have told the learning mentor and asked her to pass it on to the head teacher that my daughter will continue to bring juice to school. I do not expect the school to change the rules just for my daughter but merely offer alternatives to parents who cannot give their children pure water to drink. Thanks for the concerns and I do appreciate that you are not getting at me. I would never knowingly undermine my child's school and do try and see the schools point of view and enforce it wherever possible. But I have to say on this one they are wrong especially when they are still promoting that it is ok to bring in chocolate and crisps. The last time I looked the latter two items are not healthy options. My child takes neither of these to school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluffy74 Posted April 20, 2009 Author Share Posted April 20, 2009 If her daughter is sick when she drinks water I'd respectfully suggest that she's having mum for a fool and that mum is falling fot it........ And without going into detail I have the Sheffield Childrens Hospital notes and help from specialists to say that my daughter is not having me for a fool so facts straight you must get before you make comments my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minimo Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 I think the problem is that some schools try to impose rules that are unnecessarily stringent. We all understand that fizzy, sugar laden drinks are unhealthy and banning them makes absolute sense. But there can be no justification for banning natural fruit juices. As some have said teachers would not give up their chosen drink, and if that was a diet coke or similar who is going to say they can't have it? I can just imagine the reaction if their can was confiscated. Parents are progressively being emasculated, leaving them no say in the rearing of their children. As long as it's not excessive there is no harm in a child having an occasional treat of something considered 'unhealthy'. When I was at junior school (admittedly many years ago) I remember we had to have a one third of a pint bottle of milk mid morning. They were not refrigerated and in warm weather there was a thick sludge at the top of the warm milk. It was disgustingly undrinkable and more likely to cause illness than promote good health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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