KenH Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 What medical problem leaves people unable to drink plain water?! Not a physical one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthedog Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 My daughter's medical condition. Why are you another doctor that can solve the problem? You're a genius if you can because all the specialists that we have seen so far cannot and come up with the answer of just flavouring the water so that my daughter can drink and doesn't vomit. If you have a cure I would be greatly appreciate it. Firstly, calm down. That was a geniune question. Considering that if you flavour the water your daughter is fine then this suggests a non-physical issue, hence the doctors not being able to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strix Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 I'm sorry - I didn't read all ten pages as it started repeating I notice most people on page one are claiming they give their kids 'toothkind' juices, which usually contain aspartame. If you read any of the threads on here on aspartame you'll find that lots of people have adverse reactions to aspartame but it takes one heck of a long time to figure out what it is It gives me headaches and makes me crabby I'd be all for schools banning both sugary drinks and the ones that contain aspartame - which incidentally includes those watery ones with 'a touch of' flavour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hennypenny Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Whilst I agree with you about some schools creating cannon fodder, I think you are missing the point entirely about what is going on in this case. When you are home-educating your children, do they not have any rules? For example, would they be allowed to make models using a stanley knife on your dining room table? This school is simply having a similar rule, which is "you can only have water in the classrooms". This is a fairly common rule in primary schools, because the school doesn't want a sticky mess being caused by spilling pop. It is also more important to have rules like this when there are more children together and expecially when, as in this case, some of the children are allowed to do anything they like at home. Hi Ken We have rules at home, such as no food where it might wreck the carpet if spilt etc, same as most people have in their homes. We actually do drink water mostly, and when we child minded that was what we offered to the children in our care, however if a parent said to us that their child preferred juice then we offered that instead, so long as the child had regular drinks and didn't get dehydrated then I couldn't see why it mattered. I can totally understand a rule such as water only in the classrooms, that sounds fair enough, but I don't like the things that have been written such as teachers sniffing each child's bottle to ensure it isn't flavoured clear drink rather than water. This smacks of a lack of trust and respect for children and parents. I actually cannot see what would be wrong with having the large mineral water stations in each classroom in the same way as they do in offices, with children being free to access them when needed, but if they prefer something else instead then they can get that at breaks. It is a very difficult balance when it comes to diet. When I see all the little fat chav children leave our local school, I can see why the school might think it a good idea to have rules about what food they eat on the premises (they don't do this yet mind). However, even if this annoyed me because my children don't live on crisps and so the odd treat doesn't hurt them, I would be very careful not to undermine the school in front of the children. When you home-eduate them, do you let them have anything they like to eat, or do they get what they are given, in which case isn't this the same as school anyway? My children are given the same food as the other members of the family when we all sit down together to eat, but the food made will be made considering their preferences and if they don't want it, then they would be free to get themselves something else instead. We did have rules about sweets, I don't buy them very often to have in the house, but our children have spending money and if they wanted them enough then they were free to buy sweets with their own money. I cannot speak for other home educators any more than you can speak for all parents who send their child to school, but that is how it worked in our house. I would never ever force a child to eat or drink something they didn't want, although I would encourage them to have at least one taste of it just to check if they really don't like it - sometimes they find they do like the taste of it after all. It has been shown that children who are given free access to a whole range of healthy and junk food will choose for themselves a healthy diet overall, even though they may binge on one unhealthy food for a while, the studies found they balanced it out for themselves quite naturally. This does depend on them having free and unhindered access to a whole range of food, and is actually a metaphor for our method of education as our children are also allowed free access to a whole range of educational resources and allowed to choose for themselves what they learn or refuse to learn. In the same way, I have found that they naturally choose for themselves a broad and balanced education without anyone needing to apply compulsion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayley1 Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 So.......... Why don't schools ban all forms of drink in bottle in school, invest in water fountains.....or coolers.....(oh sorry have to go off on a tangent here..my daughters school did this, then stopped providing cups because they were too expensive)........ Jayne All the kids in my lads school have a little plastic beaker in their drawer, that might be a compromise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayne67 Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 All the kids in my lads school have a little plastic beaker in their drawer, that might be a compromise Possibly yes. IMO if the schools want to take control of what kids can or can't drink in school, then let them take some responsibility for providing sufficient facilities. Jayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hennypenny Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Not really - water has always been perceived as healthy. If you explained to your children all about healthy eating and diet, would you then let them make their own choices about what to eat and drink, 100% of the time? Yes, this is what I have done. I have one child who only drinks water by her own choice, and one child who prefers flavoured drinks by his own choice. Nobody in my family have been concientious objectors - they all bravely fought (and died) for the freedoms you enjoy today. This is way off topic so I hope we won't need to continue this too far, but I am glad that we are both able to feel proud of our ancestors. I feel that for my grandfather at 18 years old when he was conscripted into the army to dare to stand in line on the parade ground and refuse to put on his uniform in front of all the troops, to be threatened with being shot as he had refused to obey an order from an officer, to be beaten every day, to be court martialled when the sentence could well have been execution and then to spend two years in Shepherds bush prison and to still stand up for what he believed (that the war was a class issue and that the lower classes were being used as pawns in a conflict by the upper classes) was incredibly brave. How much easier would it have been to have just done what he was told? He did in fact serve in the 2nd world war as he felt that war was for entirely different reasons and he agreed that they needed fighting over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotti Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Whilst I dont agree with the Nanny State telling us all what to do, I dont understand why you have let your daughter get to the age of 10 still not drinking water. I'm 21 and my mother still hasn't got me drinking plain water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenH Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 This is way off topic so I hope we won't need to continue this too far, but I am glad that we are both able to feel proud of our ancestors. I feel that for my grandfather at 18 years old when he was conscripted into the army to dare to stand in line on the parade ground and refuse to put on his uniform in front of all the troops, to be threatened with being shot as he had refused to obey an order from an officer, to be beaten every day, to be court martialled when the sentence could well have been execution and then to spend two years in Shepherds bush prison and to still stand up for what he believed (that the war was a class issue and that the lower classes were being used as pawns in a conflict by the upper classes) was incredibly brave. How much easier would it have been to have just done what he was told? He did in fact serve in the 2nd world war as he felt that war was for entirely different reasons and he agreed that they needed fighting over. I think we should go off topic as the original topic is about a silly girl who says she doesn't like water and is now going to add further to the workload of her school as a result. I am sure you are right that refusing to take part in the first world war takes far more courage than actually taking part. I am an ex-soldier before anyone who hasn't worn a uniform starts making a fuss. I also think that children have to know when some things are completely wrong (perhaps I might suggest schools taking their fingerprints to take books out of the library as an example) and so should be fought, and those that are minor and irrelevant,. such as drinking water rather than their favourite pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hennypenny Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 I think we should go off topic as the original topic is about a silly girl who says she doesn't like water and is now going to add further to the workload of her school as a result. I am sure you are right that refusing to take part in the first world war takes far more courage than actually taking part. I am an ex-soldier before anyone who hasn't worn a uniform starts making a fuss. I also think that children have to know when some things are completely wrong (perhaps I might suggest schools taking their fingerprints to take books out of the library as an example) and so should be fought, and those that are minor and irrelevant,. such as drinking water rather than their favourite pop. Well, this is where we may have to agree to differ then, because I feel that it is the act of taking the minor choices away from children that leads to them never learning how to exercise their right of choice later on in life. I do think that ultimately it should be totally free choice for each human being of what they allow to enter their body, and whilst we should try to educate our children to enable them to make the best choices, we should never take the power of choice totally away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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