God does NOT exist!

[f0rd]

It says CHRISTIANS brought in a bill to abolish slavery. Stop this silly blustering that is so typical of atheists, and stop insulting people as well.

 

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Are you really trying to say, not one Christian or somebody who thought themselves were Christian voted against this bill.

 

And then can you name at least one of the atheists that voted against.

[Grahame]

Are you really trying to say, not one Christian or somebody who thought themselves were Christian voted against this bill.

 

And then can you name at least one of the atheists that voted against.

 

It only leave atheists in opposition.

 

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[f0rd]

It only leave atheists in opposition.

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No it doesn't, people could believe in God, believe they are following Christianity, they arn't atheists by the very virtue they believe in God.

 

Are you seriously trying to tell us everyone that voted against was an atheist and had no belief in a God no matter what religion they were?

 

Oh and Grahame you forgot/ignored

 

And then can you name at least one of the atheists that voted against.

[quisquose]

It says CHRISTIANS brought in a bill to abolish slavery. Stop this silly blustering that is so typical of atheists, and stop insulting people as well.

 

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Oh, this is ridiculous.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolitionism

 

Abolitionism was a movement to end the slave trade and emancipate slaves in western Europe and the Americas. The slave system aroused little protest until the 18th century, when rationalist thinkers of the Enlightenment criticized it for violating the rights of man, and Quaker and other evangelical religious groups condemned it as un-Christian.

 

Whilst Wilberforce and others were motivated by their faith, there were also many others who were motivated by the rational enlightenment thinking. Many of these would have been atheists, although many would not even consider themselves as such at the time.

 

There were clearly Christians/Agnostics/Atheists on both side of the argument back then, and the only way for you to prove your case would be to show that the ratio of Christians on the abolition argument is significantly higher, and of course that they are "real" Christians.

 

This is impossible of course, so you can assert it as much as you like, but to a group of people that like to see evidence you will just make yourself look silly.

 

Of course in America we do have evidence. Abraham Lincoln was non-religious, and the argument was definitely conducted in a north/south, secular/Christian manner.

 

Now back to this "when was Jesus crucified" question ...

 

[flamingjimmy]

Of course in America we do have evidence. Abraham Lincoln was non-religious, and the argument was definitely conducted in a north/south, secular/Christian manner.

""The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma."

 

- Abraham Lincoln

[Grahame]

oh, this is ridiculous.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/abolitionism

 

 

 

whilst wilberforce and others were motivated by their faith, there were also many others who were motivated by the rational enlightenment thinking. Many of these would have been atheists, although many would not even consider themselves as such at the time.

 

There were clearly christians/agnostics/atheists on both side of the argument back then, and the only way for you to prove your case would be to show that the ratio of christians on the abolition argument is significantly higher, and of course that they are "real" christians.

 

this is impossible of course, so you can assert it as much as you like, but to a group of people that like to see evidence you will just make yourself look silly.

 

Of course in america we do have evidence. Abraham lincoln was non-religious, and the argument was definitely conducted in a north/south, secular/christian manner.

 

Now back to this "when was jesus crucified" question ...

 

 

That is not what the article says. Stop lying.

[flamingjimmy]

That is not what the article says. Stop lying.

 

Yes it is, you really have given up haven't you, resorting to just barefaced lying and hoping that no-one will click the link and read what it says.

 

This is the second sentence from the article:

 

"The slave system aroused little protest until the 18th century, when rationalist thinkers of the Enlightenment criticized it for violating the rights of man, and Quaker and other evangelical religious groups condemned it as un-Christian."

[Grahame]

I have all the material I need for my book. Thanks everyone.

 

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[EbonyBranch]

That is not what the article says. Stop lying.

 

You know, Grahame; every time a xtian tells a lie, an angel loses its wings....

[flamingjimmy]

I have all the material I need for my book. Thanks everyone.

 

What's your book gonna be called? 'How Atheism Kills Babies!'?