Research finds no bias towards migrants for council housing

[Mecky]

A basic report here http://www.itv.com/news/articles/immigrant-housing-priority-a-myth-597496103.html

 

and the full report here http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/media-centre/research-finds-no-bias-in-allocation-of-social-housing/

 

87.8% of people in social housing were born in the UK, and only 1.8% had moved to the UK in the last 5 years. This must be disappointing news for those who like to play the victim card and claim that British people are treated as "second class" when it comes to social housing. Clearly they aren't

 

Migrants are not allowed social housing until they become settled, something I think sheffield city council should be looking at.

[boyfriday]

Hills, J. (2007) Ends and Means: The future roles of social housing in England, CASE report 34. London: ESRC Research Centre for Analysis of Social Exclusion.

 

Could you comment on the relevancy to the OP please?

[Plain Talker]

Migrants are not allowed social housing until they become settled, something I think sheffield city council should be looking at.

 

Seeing as that's part of the policy (not being entitled to social housing, an therefore being prevented from being offered /accepting one), I'd say the council has the problem all wrapped up, within the policy.

 

It'd be like my sister, as a single mum of one four-year-old boy, applying for, and getting that seven-bedroomed house that's been on offer in Pitsmoor. It just ain't gonna happen. She'd not be entitled to a seven bedroomed property, and therefore shouldn't be even in the running for it.

[Ms Macbeth]

Migrants are not allowed social housing until they become settled, something I think sheffield city council should be looking at.

 

One of the first questions asked of housing applicants is about eligibility. As PT has pointed out its in the housing policy. If someone has not got settled status they aren't eligible for social housing. Quite a simple test really. However, if you know of someone who has a council house without being eligible, let Sheffield Homes or the council know and they'll check it out.

[Ms Macbeth]

More than a quarter (27 per cent) of all black or minority ethnic householders are social tenants (including around half of Bangladeshi and 43 per cent of black Caribbean and black African householders), compared to 17 per cent of white householders. Looking at today’s social housing stock, 93 per cent of it was already within the sector nine years ago (although 750,000 dwellings were transferred between local authority and housing association ownership). For tenants, there is much less movement between dwellings than within the private rented sector, and more than 80 per cent of those living in social housing today were also within the sector ten years ago (if born by then).

Hills, J. (2007) Ends and Means: The future roles of social housing in England, CASE report 34. London: ESRC Research Centre for Analysis of Social Exclusion.

 

Many of those bme tenants won't be first or even second generation British. Their families may have settled here a long time ago. As bme people account for less than 20% of our society, if a quarter of them are in social housing, that only accounts for around 5% of all social lets. And considering many of them have come from impoverished countries such as Bangladesh, perhaps its more surprising there aren't more.

 

The lack of movement in the sector compared to private renting isn't surprising, council housing offers permanent tenancies, private letting doesn't. Many private renters are students, or people saving up to buy, or waiting for social housing. Very few these days see it as a place to live for ever.

 

All sorts of comparisons can be drawn by showing percentages, perhaps it would make more sense to look at the actual numbers?

[chem1st]

Many of those bme tenants won't be first or even second generation British. Their families may have settled here a long time ago. As bme people account for less than 20% of our society, if a quarter of them are in social housing, that only accounts for around 5% of all social lets. And considering many of them have come from impoverished countries such as Bangladesh, perhaps its more surprising there aren't more.

 

The lack of movement in the sector compared to private renting isn't surprising, council housing offers permanent tenancies, private letting doesn't. Many private renters are students, or people saving up to buy, or waiting for social housing. Very few these days see it as a place to live for ever.

 

All sorts of comparisons can be drawn by showing percentages, perhaps it would make more sense to look at the actual numbers?

 

Bad calculation with the percentage there.

 

http://england.shelter.org.uk/housing_issues/Improving_social_housing/who_gets_social_housing#_edn4

 

18% of all people are in social housing.

26% of BME are in social housing.

 

If 20% of population are BME, and a quarter of them are in social hosuing, then 5% of the population are BME and in social housing, thus [(5/18 )*100]% (28%) of tenants in social housing would be BME.

[chem1st]

That is what the report has done.

 

First by looking at the Policies and showing the only bias in allocation goes against migrants.

 

And secondly by looking at the proportions in housing and showing that the numbers in social housing are no more than would otherwise be expected.

 

That is as close to a proof as is possible.

 

So migrants who have arrived in the past 5 years account for 1.8% of social housing tenancies.

 

Migrants over them 5 years = under a million

 

1 million = 1.67% of UK population

 

In five years, 1.67% of the population have accumulated 1.8% of social housing tenancies.

 

I haven't even factored in social housing turnover over the 5 years (its under 25%), and the percentage of that turnover to new lettings (opposed to exchanges), which is about 80%.

[denlin]

A basic report here http://www.itv.com/news/articles/immigrant-housing-priority-a-myth-597496103.html

 

and the full report here http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/media-centre/research-finds-no-bias-in-allocation-of-social-housing/

 

87.8% of people in social housing were born in the UK, and only 1.8% had moved to the UK in the last 5 years. This must be disappointing news for those who like to play the victim card and claim that British people are treated as "second class" when it comes to social housing. Clearly they aren't

 

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