truman Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 The fountain money is not lost. Go and put your bike and some money openly in town and tell the insurance company you intentionally didn't lock it. They will tell you we don't live in cloud cuckoo land. Still doesn't mean that the person taking it isn't stealing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 The fountain money is not lost. Go and put your bike and some money openly in town and tell the insurance company you intentionally didn't lock it. They will tell you we don't live in cloud cuckoo land. Who brought insurance into this? A civil contract with an insurance company doesn't alter the criminal act of theft. If someone steals my bike, they are entirely responsible for their behaviour. Not me. Surely even a child could understand this concept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daven Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Who brought insurance into this? A civil contract with an insurance company doesn't alter the criminal act of theft. If someone steals my bike, they are entirely responsible for their behaviour. Not me. Surely even a child could understand this concept? Exactly..... but we are talking about Dutch here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms Macbeth Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 (edited) Good grief, I can't believe how this argument has carried on! I think chucking money into fountains, in the UK, is done with the belief the money will be used responsibly. It doesn't surprise me that some of us are disappointed when people think it's ok to help themselves. I think it depends to an extent on what someone thinks is reasonable behaviour. If folk are genuinely in need, then there are places that can help, but desperation may make them fish for pennies. That, in a country like ours is very sad. If they are just greedy, shame on them! However, other people's behaviour won't stop me giving my grandchildren a coin or two if they want to make a wish. Edited July 27, 2016 by Ms Macbeth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 It's illegal to take a coin off the street and keep it... It's no less illegal if you take it from a fountain. Not necessarily true. Someone may keep something like a coin as it would be very hard to track down the owner so that then is not an act of theft. It is also not necessary in this instance to notify the police for the same reasons in that it would be nigh on impossible to identify the original owner. It would only be theft by finding if the person who picked up the coin saw the person who dropped it and failed to give it back. If the property is abandoned then the same rule applies, technically this is abandoned money (not lost) as it was thrown away. Totally different if a wad of notes or a wallet is found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutch Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) If someone steals my bike, they are entirely responsible for their behaviour. Not me. Surely even a child could understand this concept? You throw money in the fountain, this is the root source beginning of the problem. As the money thrower you start the process of irresponsible behaviour with the unsafe keeping of money in an unsecure place. Every child can understand this concept. But it is only typical that mostly irresponsible people will blame the problem on the one who takes it from the fountain afterwards. ---------- Post added 28-07-2016 at 10:41 ---------- Ill put £2 in there today where I can still see it through the glass so I can see over time if it is still there. Am I the idiot or the one who takes it? Edited July 28, 2016 by dutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Good grief, I can't believe how this argument has carried on! ... You've been on SF over ten years and you're surprised that an argument about a handful of 10p's can span eight pages? I'm surprised the page count isn't in double figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutch Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) Edit: I'll throw some change in there just to watch her fish it back out again Edited July 28, 2016 by dutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey104 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 It's only illegal to take the money if there is a sign indicating that the money is going to a particular recipient. Who would the police go to for a statement of complaint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euroout23 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 It's only illegal to take the money if there is a sign indicating that the money is going to a particular recipient. Who would the police go to for a statement of complaint? exactly!! in fact next time i am in town i might just help my self and see what happens:hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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