How do I get the mobile speed camera on our road?

[chrisphysics]

i begrudge being treated the same as some numpty who passed their test yesterday.

 

Much the same for me. Just because the country is dumbing down, doesn't mean I am.

[spindrift]

It's incredible, but the ACPO guidelines are that there have to be deaths or serious injuries on roads where drivers go too fast before a speed camera can be installed. So you go to the authorities, ask for a speed camera, and they say 'Wait till someone dies!'

 

Madness.

 

And that 'only 6% of RTA's involve speeding' claim is hogwash, it's a myth propogated by obsessive pro-speeding lobby groups.

 

In FATAL RTAs speeding is a factor in a third of all deaths, probably a lot more since one of the main other causes is 'failing to look'. That's more than a thousand people every year.

 

It's obvious except to anyone except nutjob speedophiles that lower speeds would allow more time for reaction and evasion.

[chrisphysics]

In FATAL RTAs speeding is a factor in a third of all deaths, probably a lot more since one of the main other causes is 'failing to look'. That's more than a thousand people every year.

 

You're wrong. Show us your source and defintion of "speeding" because the government facts are different.

Going too fast for the scenario is what you mean? Nothing to do with 30 mph limits and a requirement for speed cameras.

 

"In the serious accident category in the same year (1998 ), just 2 per cent were attributed to being over the speed limit and 28 per cent due to going too fast."

 

Source: http://go.sheffieldforum.co.uk/?id=203X323&url=http%3A//www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200102/cmselect/cmtlgr/557/557ap15.htm

 

 

And while your right traveling slower does allow more time to react so do cars with better brakes, tyres and suspension.

 

You're preaching to us about speed limits but what brand brakes and tyres do you have on your car?

[tis me]

It's incredible, but the ACPO guidelines are that there have to be deaths or serious injuries on roads where drivers go too fast before a speed camera can be installed. So you go to the authorities, ask for a speed camera, and they say 'Wait till someone dies!'

 

Madness.

 

And that 'only 6% of RTA's involve speeding' claim is hogwash, it's a myth propogated by obsessive pro-speeding lobby groups.

 

In FATAL RTAs speeding is a factor in a third of all deaths, probably a lot more since one of the main other causes is 'failing to look'. That's more than a thousand people every year.

 

It's obvious except to anyone except nutjob speedophiles that lower speeds would allow more time for reaction and evasion.

 

Its also obvious that some cant drive at any speed and never will be able to.

Its also obvous that the do gooders have the most dangerous attitudes on our roads and that we see every day.That causes more accidents and rage than speeding does.

[Skink]

It's obvious except to anyone except nutjob speedophiles that lower speeds would allow more time for reaction and evasion.

 

one of my favourite phrases is "transend and include"

 

everyone is entitled to their opinion and I do admire the zealots and extremeists who will go to amazing lengths to get their point across - the world is a better, more interesting place for them.

 

Mostly

[spindrift]

You're wrong. Show us your source and defintion of "speeding" because the government facts are different.

Going too fast for the scenario is what you mean? Nothing to do with 30 mph limits and a requirement for speed cameras.

 

"In the serious accident category in the same year (1998 ), just 2 per cent were attributed to being over the speed limit and 28 per cent due to going too fast."

 

Source: http://go.sheffieldforum.co.uk/?id=203X323&url=http%3A//www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200102/cmselect/cmtlgr/557/557ap15.htm

 

 

And while your right traveling slower does allow more time to react so do cars with better brakes, tyres and suspension.

 

You're preaching to us about speed limits but what brand brakes and tyres do you have on your car?

 

There are two speed-related contributory factors in the STATS 19 system, travelling too fast for conditions (Factor 307) and exceeding speed limit (Factor 306).

 

One or other was reported in 33% of fatal rural accidents, 22% of serious and 20% of slight rural accidents. Consequently, 'inappropriate speed' (which is a combination of travelling too fast for conditions and exceeding the speed limit) followed loss of control as the most frequently reported factor contributing to accident causation.

 

There are two speed-related contributory factors in the STATS 19 system, travelling too fast for conditions (Factor 307) and exceeding speed limit (Factor 306). One or other was reported in 33% of fatal rural accidents, 22% of serious and 20% of slight rural accidents.

 

Consequently, 'inappropriate speed' (which is a combination of travelling too fast for conditions and exceeding the speed limit) followed loss of control as the most frequently reported factor contributing to accident causation.

 

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2008/10/03140628/7

 

Speeding is driving too fast for the conditions or above the posted limit. Confusing the two is common among camera-haters.

 

Cameras impose the law, only criminals worry about speed cameras.

 

 

Lower speeds save lives.

[tis me]

There are two speed-related contributory factors in the STATS 19 system, travelling too fast for conditions (Factor 307) and exceeding speed limit (Factor 306).

 

One or other was reported in 33% of fatal rural accidents, 22% of serious and 20% of slight rural accidents. Consequently, 'inappropriate speed' (which is a combination of travelling too fast for conditions and exceeding the speed limit) followed loss of control as the most frequently reported factor contributing to accident causation.

 

There are two speed-related contributory factors in the STATS 19 system, travelling too fast for conditions (Factor 307) and exceeding speed limit (Factor 306). One or other was reported in 33% of fatal rural accidents, 22% of serious and 20% of slight rural accidents.

 

Consequently, 'inappropriate speed' (which is a combination of travelling too fast for conditions and exceeding the speed limit) followed loss of control as the most frequently reported factor contributing to accident causation.

 

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2008/10/03140628/7

 

Speeding is driving too fast for the conditions or above the posted limit. Confusing the two is common among camera-haters.

 

Cameras impose the law, only criminals worry about speed cameras.

 

 

Lower speeds save lives.

 

Theres hell of a lot more you could do to impact on saving lives on our roads than lower speed limits but unfortuantly they arnt as good an earner.

[chrisphysics]

Cameras impose the law, only criminals worry about speed cameras.

 

Lower speeds save lives.

 

I've got no speeding tickets.....

 

So do better tyres, do you have the best on your car?

[couture]

whatever happened to road sense been taught to kids by parents????? ive been driving many years and i dont see why i should be expected to look out for kids on the road and while im at it, message for most students, take your head phones off when crossing roads and pay attention, same occurs in shops, if parents let kids wander infront of trolleys i for one just keep going, so its over to you parents not us drivers.

[chrisphysics]

same occurs in shops, if parents let kids wander infront of trolleys i for one just keep going, so its over to you parents not us drivers.

 

Lol, I've always wanted to do this. Perhaps not the best idea to apply to the roads though.