mike-s Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 As a sales rep I used to drive over once a month on my visits to customers Manchester and Liverpool way in the 70s. Had some fun times coming down winnats sideways in the snow after Mam Tor closed, but somehow never got stuck in all the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxon51 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Hi, Some geo-tech engineer is probably going to tell me I'm wrong but I was told the road was built across/along the place where two rock formations meet. That is: the limestone of the white peak and the millstone grit of the dark peak. Each formation is moving, ever so slightly, against the other. This and heavily loaded lorries was the reason why the road was always breaking up. In my childhood, Mam Tor was also known as the "Shivering Mountain" It was costing the Derbyshire CC a fortune to keep the road repaired and authorities were also under a lot of pressure to stop heavy lorries using the road anyway. By closing it completely, they solved both problems. Regards I'd always believed that the reason for the instability was what is clearly visible when you get close to the bottom of the collapse or better still, halfway up the lefthand side .... shale layers sandwiched between clay layers. I could be wrong, of course, and just be believing rumours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Talker Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 You cyclists will be interested to know that you can still ride part way up the old road, BUT, there are some small sections where it is necessary to get off and walk. Memories of both riding up and down when the road was completely passable. I have good memories of my father taking me and my sister fossil-ling on top of Mam Tor back when we were youngsters. I remember that the road was getting dodgy, even then. God! It was lovely out in the peaks. I love the scenery out in the Peak District. My sis and I would clamber on the hillside of Winnat's pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Sheffield Motor Cycle Club on Mam Tor, 1920 picturesheffield Link didn't work https://www.hpacde.org.uk/picturesheffield/jpgh/v00387.jpg I think that's what you were trying to link to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me-and-pippo Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Link didn't work https://www.hpacde.org.uk/picturesheffield/jpgh/v00387.jpg I think that's what you were trying to link to It did in 2009, thanks for that Cyclone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upinwath Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Just to add to that bit, have you ever tried getting up Winnets Pass in a 1.1 Escort with 5 adults in the car? Been up on a 500cc single. The power to weight ratio meant it I hardly knew there was a slight hill there. /smug sod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kal el Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 ive been going up it for over 20 years it never gets boring.here is some history fgor you. http://www.bgs.ac.uk/landslides/mamtor.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upinwath Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 ive been going up it for over 20 years it never gets boring.here is some history fgor you. http://www.bgs.ac.uk/landslides/mamtor.html You aren't wrong. I first went when I was a kid and have been back a good few times. It's was as good the last time as it was the first. "Spectacular" doesn't get close to doing the place justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecliffe Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 The road was built hundreds of years ago before they knew about the sub soil problems. It is built on soft ground but they knew nothing of geology at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choogling Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Just to add to that bit, have you ever tried getting up Winnets Pass in a 1.1 Escort with 5 adults in the car? not surprising really it was a four seater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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