Berberis Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Maybe not as a totality, but we can tell what individuals like Daniel Hannam MEP have been advocating on their behalf in europe. Which was further deregulation of financial markets and the sort of economy that made Iceland the worst hit country by the recession. The point is no one can say for any certainty what the conservatives would have done. They do not have the portfolios for each branch of the government, they do not have the current financial data either. The only things we can comment on with any certainty are what the present government are doing and have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studentbob Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 So if you are not happy with what the government has done, and you don't know what the opposition would have done, who do you vote for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 The point is no one can say for any certainty what the conservatives would have done. They do not have the portfolios for each branch of the government, they do not have the current financial data either. The only things we can comment on with any certainty are what the present government are doing and have done. You are restricting what can be commented upon purely to what you want the debate to be restricted to. you don't need to be Chancellor to have a view on the economy any more than Daniel Hannam feels restricted talking about and advising Iceland and the UK on their and our economies, from his MEP position. If you want to make the claim Labour have done something specifically with the economy that the other parties would not have done then you need to provide evidence of what the other parties have said, not just look at Labour in isolation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 You are restricting what can be commented upon purely to what you want the debate to be restricted to. you don't need to be Chancellor to have a view on the economy any more than Daniel Hannam feels restricted talking about and advising Iceland and the UK on their and our economies, from his MEP position. If you want to make the claim Labour have done something specifically with the economy that the other parties would not have done then you need to provide evidence of what the other parties have said, not just look at Labour in isolation. I’m not saying one or the other has done anything. More to the point that we can only comment effectively on what we know. Both the Lib Dems and the Tories have been pretty muted on the subject to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 So if you are not happy with what the government has done, and you don't know what the opposition would have done, who do you vote for? There is much more to politics than the current recession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studentbob Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 There is much more to politics than the current recession. Maybe but, short of us going to war again in the next few months, I think it will be one of major factors in the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonkatoy Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 So if you are not happy with what the government has done, and you don't know what the opposition would have done, who do you vote for? Well they only lock up people who have committed crimes, not those who someone suggests might commit a crime in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bru-sheff Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 With the Tories consistently above Labour in the opinion polls, given what has happened previously to employment levels when the economy was in recession, and there was a change of government and with the Tories promising huge public spending cuts.Just how high will unemployment rise? Not sure ....hmmm maybe we should stick with Labour because they have done such a great job :banana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studentbob Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Well they only lock up people who have committed crimes, not those who someone suggests might commit a crime in the future. Why use an analogy (and a pretty poor one at that)? If people want to vote for David Cameron then that's fine. But you could at least tell us what it is that he is offering. Maybe you can convince the rest of us disillusioned lefties that Dave and George are the way forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 Not sure ....hmmm maybe we should stick with Labour because they have done such a great job :banana: I am not saying that Labour have done a 'brilliant' job. I am disappointed with many aspects such as the continued decline of manufacturing industry. BUT they have been very good for the public services ie education and health. I also think that they spent too much time and effort getting involved in Bush's war in Iraq. I remember how desperate things were in Sheffield in the early 80's and believe they should NEVER be trusted to run the country agan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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