Titanic99 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Interestingly if predictions are correct, by the time Labour get kicked out of office in May they will almost have managed to double the unemployment levels that they took over from John Major. So which side are you taking on this one, the side of the poor sods struggling to keep a roof over their head, or the business peoples right to be able to pay us a pittance whilst they get richer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titanic99 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 It is hardly an excuse if someone who is made redundant whilst Brown is PM joins the dole queues after the election. But as I said it will give the Loony Left a chance to crow. I have no doubt that you will be one of them. ut those Loony Left are the ones who've supported all of your threads about how bad it is for the unemployed, the need to get Pensioners out of poverty and for a decent Health and Education system. Make up your mind old boy, you spout one thing but then criticise others who spout the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titanic99 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 The main difference is that most Tory MPs were born to govern. They've had the right breeding and upbringing, have gone to decent schools and will have mixed with important people in industry and the financial sector throughout their lives. I'd much rather trust them than a bunch of labour hypocrites who spend their youth as socialists bleating about social justice and fairness then as soon as they get elected abandon their principles and stick their snouts in the trough ! Where they, I find most Tories on here somewhat reluctant to tell us what they want which isn't what I want from a potential government. Perhaps you could tell us what these Tories will be bring us if elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3d4nt Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 The main difference is that most Tory MPs were born to govern. They've had the right breeding and upbringing, have gone to decent schools and will have mixed with important people in industry and the financial sector throughout their lives. I'd much rather trust them than a bunch of labour hypocrites who spend their youth as socialists bleating about social justice and fairness then as soon as they get elected abandon their principles and stick their snouts in the trough ! So, in summation, you'd rather trust someone who has overtly had their snout in the trough for their whole lives than someone who claims to be pious then turns out to be as bad as the rest? I don't care for either of them, if people want a change in governing party then thats fine but you wont change who runs the country I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabag Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Where they, I find most Tories on here somewhat reluctant to tell us what they want which isn't what I want from a potential government. Perhaps you could tell us what these Tories will be bring us if elected. They will bring us massive cuts in public spending, tax breaks for the rich...top rate of tax, inheritance tax, corporation tax ......a fiscal policy that will make the pips squeak for the poor. Unemployment already rising will get higher but the chances of claiming benefit will of course be curtailed. At the same time, they will personally blame you for being unemployed and up that stigma level to the max They will cut back at all times social benefits and make it harder to claim disability. You nasty wheelchair people etc will just have to try harder and suffer more They will cut back on the civil service but create more private quangos with no local or national accountability. They will accelerate privatisation of health care and tell us we cannot keep throwing money at the problem. Parts of the service, free of charge will go and be replaced by insurance schemes or bled dry of funds that will force people to go private. They will give big tax breaks to people who take up private insurance. I predict a free fall economy within a year of them taking office...but we will be told it is harsh but necessary medicine If you have a mortgage...better protect now, if you have the chance of getting a fixed rate mortgage:hihi:. Interest rates will double within a year and with the credit crunch, repossessions will hit an all time high. They will of course blame you for living beyond your means, although they were the party that originally promoted house ownership in the eighties. They will be vague on Europe...booing and hissing on the sidelines...signing up to economic packages and backsliding on the social contract side. We will stagnate in relation to Europe ...they still cannot get their heads round Europe. We will not join the Euro under a Tory Govt. Save the pound anyone? They will of course, like Labour follow the Americans blindly in Afghanistan, where of course we will continue to get our arses kicked. They will give more economic freedom to individual schools in order to discriminate and create further social barriers in education. They will periodically bash teachers and blame them for all societies ills. They will of course change massive amounts of the curriculum unecessarily and chicken out from changing A levels. They will starve higher ed of funds and there will be massive rises in student fees. Periodically, they will target minority groups and doubt their loyalty to the country. They will attack single parents and teenage mothers and of course blame them for all socities ills. They will persists with the idea that society began to disintegrate due to the 1960-s. They will detain more asylum seekers but pursue the same previous policy because they realise that a non unionised and cheap workforce is good for their economy. They will increase the pay of the police and pay nurses, teachers and the fireservice less. Funny...the Tories hate the fireservice. They will give more draconian powers to the police as have labour and there will be riots but it will be the fault of the -enemy within- ..but inflation will fall I wish Labour had a different policy but alas no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daftlad Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 The main difference is that most Tory MPs were born to govern. They've had the right breeding and upbringing, have gone to decent schools and will have mixed with important people in industry and the financial sector throughout their lives. I'd much rather trust them than a bunch of labour hypocrites who spend their youth as socialists bleating about social justice and fairness then as soon as they get elected abandon their principles and stick their snouts in the trough ! If that is true please tell me why so many of them have landed themselves in the nick. Archer and Hamilton for example. They might have an upbringing thanks to mummy and daddy being rich, but they have never done a hard days work in their lives and they are a sbent as a nine bob note Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandad.Malky Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Teabag you could have saved yourself a lot of work and just typed…. business as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafikhaus74 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Watching the news today, it wouldn't be a bad thing is employment did rise after the next election. After 12 years of this pathetic government, most people realise that the pain to come (courtesy of Brown's recession) will have to be shared. But not, of course the public sector parasites. Firemen? Sack the whole lot of them. There are armies of people who'd step into their shoes. After all despite their 9/11 posturing, their job is mostly chip pan fires, cats up a tree and seeing how many jobs on the side they can do. Binmen? Ditto. Postmen? Prosecute them for 'losing' a million items of mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandad.Malky Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 After all despite their 9/11 posturing, their job is mostly chip pan fires, cats up a tree and seeing how many jobs on the side they can do. . Rather blunt but I get your point, if someone can do a 15 hour night shift and then be moonlighting there is something wrong, no wonder they don’t want to change their shift pattern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabag Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Teabag you could have saved yourself a lot of work and just typed…. business as usual. ...have to agree with you Malky:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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