L00b Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 All hunting is about killing animals for fun <snip>Might be in the UK, but in countries where there is still real wild animals about (i.e. a bit more diverse than just foxes, rabbits and a few badgers), hunting is about managing an ecosystem's population of wild animals. You make a good point, but generalise incorrectly on the basis of a few 'canned' experiences. I've had countless arguments with anti-hunt -opinionated people about this very facet of 'hunting' for years. It's all well-intentioned and good to advocate against shooting anything furry/fluffy, but are they going to get up early (very) on a frosty Sunday morning and check/replace salt stones, break inch-thick ice on water points, etc? Would they let an epidemy bring down an entire population in a given area rather than cull sick animals? Would they walk their territory every weekend and remove/destroy poachers' traps? Etc, etc. Hunting is not just about pulling a trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rioja Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 All hunting is about killing animals for fun, what's the problem? I like to think I have an open mind and so I agreed to give it a go before I judged them. I've also been grouse shooting and gone to a bull fight and enjoyed them too. It is a part of British culture and so there exists an argument for it to stay. I'm not sure it'll ever come back and it won't effect me in the slightest either way. The problem is it doesn't effect the majority who complain about it either but they manage to get all upset about it. Just because something is "cultural" does not make it right or proper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopshop Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Just because you don't agree with something doesn't make it not right or improper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollymay Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Hunting is ace, have you not read lord of the flies? Here piggy pig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 All hunting is about killing animals for fun, what's the problem? I like to think I have an open mind and so I agreed to give it a go before I judged them. I've also been grouse shooting and gone to a bull fight and enjoyed them too. It is a part of British culture and so there exists an argument for it to stay. I'm not sure it'll ever come back and it won't effect me in the slightest either way. The problem is it doesn't effect the majority who complain about it either but they manage to get all upset about it. The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable (or summat like that) Courtesy of Oscar Wilde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 The irony is that the number of people who take part in hunts has increased since the ban was implemented. The message, which the hunt fraternity won't acknowledge, is that more people enjoy riding to hounds as long as there is no live animal as the target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 The irony is that the number of people who take part in hunts has increased since the ban was implemented. The message, which the hunt fraternity won't acknowledge, is that more people enjoy riding to hounds as long as there is no live animal as the target. If they have to go out with their dog's why don't they go drag hunting instead? suppose theirs no blood to lust with that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kebab69man Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Former stag hunter and fox hunter David Cameron is planning to allow a free vote in the commons to repeal the ban on hunting with dogs act which was brought in by Labour.See article below (from Yahoo News) : StoryThe Tories would use a government bill in government time to overturn the hunting ban, shadow environment secretary Nick Herbert has confirmed. Mr Herbert said the Hunting Act was an "ass" as it had not saved the life of a single fox and hunt membership had actually increased. Tory leader David Cameron has described the ban as a "farce" and said he would hold a Commons vote on repealing the act if the Conservatives were elected. There was speculation in recent weeks that this would be done through a backbench private member's bill, which would have less chance of becoming law due to a lack of parliamentary time. But writing in the Sunday Telegraph, Mr Herbert said: "There is a compelling case to sweep this law off the statute book. "That is why David Cameron has said that, if we are elected, we will give Parliament the opportunity to repeal the Hunting Act on a free vote, with a government bill in government time. There will be no watering down or retreat from this pledge, which will be repeated in our election manifesto." He said some people argued that the Hunting Act was so ineffective that it might as well be left on the statute book. "But this is bad law, and bad laws should be repealed. While prosecutions have so far mainly failed, it is the professional hunt staff, whose livelihoods depend on their employment, who have found themselves in the dock and who still fear arrest, with all the worry and opprobrium that very public and drawn-out prosecutions entail." Mr Herbert said Labour's hunting ban was an "act of spite" which "attempted to create two nations, dividing town and country". He said: "It treated the rural minority with contempt, bordering on hatred. I will certainly vote for repeal, and so I hope will a majority of the new Commons. And with no more ado we can then move on, forging a positive agenda for conservation and the countryside, and putting the politics of prejudice and division behind us." Labour MP Emily Thornberry said attempting to overturn the hunting ban was the "wrong battle for any serious government to fight in 2010". She said: "What does it say about Cameron that while Gordon Brown has thrown his full weight behind tackling the recession and securing the recovery for Britain, Cameron would throw his weight behind a move to bring back hunting?" If they are going to bring back hunting for the toffs, what about the comman peoples blood sports such as badger bating, hair chasing, **** fighting and rat catching. All have the same implications, but without the toffs in silly red jackets and riding hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eckerslike Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 If they are going to bring back hunting for the toffs, what about the comman peoples blood sports such as badger bating, hair chasing, **** fighting and rat catching. All have the same implications, but without the toffs in silly red jackets and riding hats. Is hair chasing where the dogs run after a toupé? Incidentally what gives you the idea that it is toffs in the silly red jackets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md25 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Couldn't give a toss about fox hunting when they banned it and care even less now. There are bigger things to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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