John Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 In this day and age, is it still right/necessary to experiment on animals to research medical cure for human beings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBouncer Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 I voted for debatable yes. Without it a lot of what we know today wouldn't be possible. It's a fine line to draw. I'm all for Animal safety and abolish cruelty. But if they are done in a humane way then I vote yes. Needless suffering is not required. So long as the experiments are for the purpose of Human cure and not for stuff like cosmetics, viagra and other 'commercial' products then fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Maiden Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 I don't like the idea at all on animal cruelty and experiementation. Some of the stories who read about from anti-curelty campaigners are sickening and are quite obviously needless acts of cruelty that serve no benefit to any species - other than the sickening enjoyment of a human being. However - we owe a helluva how ever much we disagree with it to these animals. Without them various medications, beauty treatments and household cleaners would not be available. And who here is going to volunteer as guinea pigs?? Who here will allow dr's to test the reactions of a young child to various medications to make sure they are good for millions of other children? It makes me wonder why they are so keen to get humans cloned. A simple statement from the scientific community would be "well you didn't want us testing on animals so we found another way to make things safe for the public" All science fiction - but then we are living science fiction to someone from the 20's Moon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 Originally posted by Moon Maiden And who here is going to volunteer as guinea pigs?? Who here will allow dr's to test the reactions of a young child to various medications to make sure they are good for millions of other children? Covance in Leeds. They pay volunteers to test drugs. However, they have passed the animal testing stage before they test them on humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Maiden Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 However, they have passed the animal testing stage before they test them on humans. Doesn't that sort of defeat the object??? Moon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 I know some companies still test on animals, but many companies now-a-days look for an alternative to animal testing and only use animal testing when they can't find a suitable alternative (such as in vitro tests). The John Hopkins Center for the Alternatives to Animal Testing (CAAT) are an organisation who research experimental techniques that do not involve animals. And there are more besides this one. If anyone is interested there's more info here: http://www.allforanimals.com/alternatives1.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Just in case there's any doubt, I'm NOT for animal testing. When i said "a suitable alternative" that's not in my opinion, that would be in the opinion of the company doing the tests. Just wanted to clarify that before anyone thought I was saying that animal testing is OK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incomer Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 I think that testing of new medical products on animals will be with us for a time yet because there is no reasonable alternative at the moment. Although far from ideal it is the only way of assessing the safety of new products and if not done there will be no new products. I think that it is still a legal requirement that new medical products and new products applied to the skin are tested on animals. The whole process needs to be well regulated and carried on in a humane way. Over time alternative techniques may be developed which will allow a reduction in, and possibly even an end to, animal testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffman Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Listening to a debate on radio 2 on animal testing and experiments. Without making it an ethical debate I think that most of the 'medical' testing can stop as we have moved on so much in the field of medical science that genetic experiments are used with good results and DNA research can find out more than using a dog or monkey. One example was smoking companies still argue that smoking doesn't give you cancer so they still use smoking monkeys and mice which has nothing to do with the interest of human health they're just trying to cover their backs. Now with the variations in human and animal DNA with a false disease put into it wouldn't the animal react differently to what we would ( although I will admit without some testing in the early days we 'may' not have some of the cures we have today) In the interest of cosmetics and domestic it should be totally banned as don't we have enough bleaches and make ups, plus surely technology can help out with that more than a rabbit ever could now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkysknky Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 We wouldn't have any medicines if we didn't test on animals so I voted a confident yes. I would prefer though if beauty products etc. were tested some other way if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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