anarchist Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Here you go, fresh from the Daily Hate Mail: Tory poll lead slips as party denies David Cameron rift with George Osborne By Simon Walters Last updated at 1:21 AM on 31st January 2010 Comments (19) Add to My Stories David Cameron’s lead over Gordon Brown has slipped to nine points as the Tories yesterday denied reports of a rift between the party leader and Shadow Chancellor George Osborne. A BPIX survey for The Mail on Sunday showed the Conservatives on 39 points, Labour on 30 and Nick Clegg’s Liberal Democrats on 18. If the figures were repeated in the Election, it would result in a hung Parliament, leaving Mr Cameron nine seats short of an overall Commons majority. He would then be forced to form a pact with Mr Clegg or the Ulster Unionists to get into No10. Rift? Tory officials dismissed claims of policy differences between Cameron and Osborne It is the first time for more than two years that the Tory rating has fallen below the crucial 40 per cent threshold in a BPIX poll. In June 2008, the Conservatives were on 49 per cent, 23 points ahead of Labour. The new figures come as senior Tory officials dismissed claims of policy differences between Mr Cameron and Mr Osborne. According to one report, members of Mr Osborne’s Treasury team were surprised at Mr Cameron’s statement on Friday that spending cuts would not be ‘particularly extensive’ in the first year of a Tory government. Mr Osborne is also said to be ‘unenthusiastic’ about Mr Cameron’s promise – reaffirmed in recent weeks – to introduce tax breaks for married couples. In addition, he is said to want to copy Labour’s Election ‘pledge card’ on the grounds voters are not yet convinced they will better off under the Conservatives. Mr Cameron is understood to be against the idea, arguing that it lacks originality. However, Conservative insiders say claims that the pair have fallen out are ‘complete nonsense’. One senior aide said: ‘They are like peas in a pod. They agree on virtually all the main issues and always have. ‘They have just been to the Davos economic summit together and spent hours chatting and socialising together. They even travelled together. The reason they combined their offices – and intend to do so if we win the Election – is precisely because there is complete trust between them.’ Closer: The news BPIX poll for the Mail on Sunday Advisers of both men are quick to point out that their relationship could not be more different to the endless battles between Tony Blair and Mr Brown. One MP who knows both well said: ‘David and George actually enjoy each other’s company, not something you would say about Blair and Brown. ‘There are political differences between them: George is more socially liberal than Dave. But you are talking about nuances not splits.’ An instinctive tax cutter, Mr Osborne was behind the Tory’s plan to abolish inheritance tax, a measure which has been put on the back burner. He is also believed to have argued for the party to cut income tax as soon as possible depending on the speed of the economic recovery, and is known to advocate big spending cuts. In contrast, Mr Cameron emphasises the need to protect the NHS and education to guard against Labour claims that the Tories will close schools and hospitals if they win power. A handful of Conservatives want to see former Chancellor Ken Clarke given Mr Osborne’s job. But senior Tories say Mr Cameron is determined to stay loyal to his long-term friend. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1247426/Tory-poll-lead-slips-party-denies-David-Cameron-rift-George-Osborne.html#ixzz0eByKk2Bd Sounds like the wheels are coming off before they've started! So what you are saying is for every 30 people that say they will vote Labour 39 say they will vote Conservative. That is 30% more Conservative voters than Labour voters. So where would you rather be as the truth is starting to emerge about our desperate financil position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 So what you are saying is for every 30 people that say they will vote Labour 39 say they will vote Conservative. That is 30% more Conservative voters than Labour voters. So where would you rather be as the truth is starting to emerge about our desperate financil position? As the economy continues to pick-up, (I see that house prices have gone UP again in Jan) many people will return to who they see as the most experienced and safest pair of hands. The Tories peaked at the bottom of the cycle, as you would expect. The Tories are still despised by a large section of the electorate for wrecking the economy in the '80's, and will never vote for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccsux Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 So where would you rather be Another planet/dimension/multiverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchist Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 As the economy continues to pick-up, (I see that house prices have gone UP again in Jan) many people will return to who they see as the most experienced and safest pair of hands. The Tories peaked at the bottom of the cycle, as you would expect. The Tories are still despised by a large section of the electorate for wrecking the economy in the '80's, and will never vote for them. http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/jan/26/uk-economy-debt-bob-gross The government's hopes of claiming credit for reviving the British economy suffered a severe blow today when the world's biggest buyers of bonds warned that the UK was a "must to avoid" for his investors as its debt was "resting on a bed of nitroglycerine". The intervention by Bill Gross, co-founder of California-based fund managers Pimco, came on the day official figures confirmed that Britain had emerged from the deepest recession since the 1930s – but only by the narrowest of margins. The economy grew by 0.1% in the final three months of last year, much weaker than even the most cautious expectations in Westminster and the City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausage Dog Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Yet again another brain washed Labour supporter crowing over one tiny poll and disregarding all others. The voting poll average is still: Conservative 39% Labour 29% Lib Dem 19% and the recent poll results are as follows: DATE - CN - LB - LD - Result ------------------------------ 29 Jan - 38 - 31 - 19 - Con +7 28 Jan - 40 - 32 - 16 - Con +8 27 Jan - 40 - 24 - 19 - Con +16 24 Jan - 40 - 29 - 21 - Con +11 21 Jan - 38 - 29 - 19 - Con +9 15 Jan - 40 - 31 - 18 - Con +9 14 Jan - 42 - 29 - 19 - Con +13 10 Jan - 41 - 28 - 19 - Con +13 10 Jan - 40 - 24 - 20 - Con +16 07 Jan - 40 - 30 - 18 - Con +10 07 Jan - 42 - 30 - 16 - Con +12 06 Jan - 40 - 31 - 17 - Con +9 30 Dec - 40 - 30 - 17 - Con +10 20 Dec - 38 - 29 - 19 - Con +9 18 Dec - 40 - 24 - 20 - Con +16 17 Dec - 40 - 28 - 18 - Con +12 13 Dec - 43 - 26 - 20 - Con +17 13 Dec - 40 - 31 - 18 - Con +9 11 Dec - 40 - 31 - 16 - Con +9 11 Dec - 41 - 30 - 17 - Con +11 10 Dec - 41 - 24 - 21 - Con +17 10 Dec - 40 - 23 - 19 - Con +17 06 Dec - 38 - 30 - 20 - Con +8 04 Dec - 40 - 27 - 18 - Con +13 03 Dec - 40 - 29 - 19 - Con +11 Still in hung parliament territory then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/jan/26/uk-economy-debt-bob-gross The government's hopes of claiming credit for reviving the British economy suffered a severe blow today when the world's biggest buyers of bonds warned that the UK was a "must to avoid" for his investors as its debt was "resting on a bed of nitroglycerine". The intervention by Bill Gross, co-founder of California-based fund managers Pimco, came on the day official figures confirmed that Britain had emerged from the deepest recession since the 1930s – but only by the narrowest of margins. The economy grew by 0.1% in the final three months of last year, much weaker than even the most cautious expectations in Westminster and the City. That's the THIRD time you've posted that in 2 day's, you trying to bore us all to death with the views of some rightwing Yank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchist Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 A BPIX survey for The Mail on Sunday showed the Conservatives on 39 points, Labour on 30 and Nick Clegg’s Liberal Democrats on 18. Sounds like the wheels are coming off before they've started! Interesingly enough you started this thread by claiming Labour were only 6 points behind in the polls. Now you claim it has narrowed to 9 points. When I was at school 9 was actually 50% higher than 6. But there again I did go to a grammar school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchist Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 That's the THIRD time you've posted that in 2 day's, you trying to bore us all to death with the views of some rightwing Yank? His views are particularly painful for the government as the head of Pimco's European team is Andrew Balls, the brother of cabinet minister Ed Balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 Interesingly enough you started this thread by claiming Labour were only 6 points behind in the polls. Now you claim it has narrowed to 9 points. When I was at school 9 was actually 50% higher than 6. But there again I did go to a grammar school. My bold ...and look what it's done for you! turned you into an embittered fruitcake:hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchist Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 My bold ...and look what it's done for you! turned you into an embittered fruitcake:hihi: And you are???? So can you explain how a 6 points gap has narrowed to 9? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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