Women who wear burkhas in public in France will be fined

[Harleyman]

A man in France has been denied French citizenship, the reason being that he forced his wife to wear the burkha.

 

Good for the French! If immigrants aspire to become citizens of France then it's better they learn what "libertie, egalitie, fraternitie" mean in the full sense of those words

 

Integrate or emigrate (back to wherever)

[boyfriday]

A man in France has been denied French citizenship, the reason being that he forced his wife to wear the burkha.

 

Good for the French! If immigrants aspire to become citizens of France then it's better they learn what "libertie, egalitie, fraternitie" mean in the full sense of those words

 

Integrate or emigrate (back to wherever)

 

But does wearing a burka mean you dont want to integrate anymore than someone who wears a habit or football shirt?

 

Ps: Im assuming the man was prevented from obtaining citizenship because of his demands or was it because the French didnt like what his wife was wearing?

[Kthebean]

A man in France has been denied French citizenship, the reason being that he forced his wife to wear the burkha.

 

Good for the French! If immigrants aspire to become citizens of France then it's better they learn what "libertie, egalitie, fraternitie" mean in the full sense of those words

 

Integrate or emigrate (back to wherever)

 

There is a difference between

 

- penalising or punishing an individual for forcing someone else to do something against their will

 

and

 

- penalising or punishing an individual for their choice of clothes.

[boyfriday]

I had understood the point well, boyfriday,

 

Yes Im sure you did L00b, but there are others who wouldnt have wanted to.

but the fact of the matter is, this would still be perceived (in the grand scheme of things) as the lesser of the two evils: 'inconvenience' the minority to 'safeguard' the majority..

 

..but who will it be perceived in that way by?

[Harleyman]

But does wearing a burka mean you dont want to integrate anymore than someone who wears a habit or football shirt?

 

From what I understand in this particular case the man forced his wife to wear the burkha rather than give her the choice of dress so her basic freedoms under French law were violated by her husband

[boyfriday]

Using the opposite extreme, we don't have the freedom to walk around in public naked.

 

..and we never have done, that's why it's accepted, however if we had and the law was suddenly changed to criminalise it, you can imagine people would be bearing their bottoms at police officers over it

[boyfriday]

From what I understand in this particular case the man forced his wife to wear the burkha rather than give her the choice of dress so her basic freedoms under French law were violated by her husband

 

Well that's a great result, the French were supporting the woman's freedom to wear what she wanted and I would support the British government if they acted similarly.

[Harleyman]

Well that's a great result, the French were supporting the woman's freedom to wear what she wanted and I would support the British government if they acted similarly.

 

And what a tragedy it is that apparently they dont

[L00b]

..but who will it be perceived in that way by?

On the advice of its intelligence departments, the government. Which, any day of the week, would rather get mildly pricked for roughing up some liberal ideals (all well founded as they may be), than badly stung for failing to prevent acts of terrorism (all hypothetical as they may be). As always, a question of balancing risk assessment against political fallout.

[boyfriday]

On the advice of its intelligence departments, the government. Which, any day of the week, would rather get mildly pricked for roughing up some liberal ideals (all well founded as they may be), than badly stung for failing to prevent acts of terrorism (all hypothetical as they may be). As always, a question of balancing risk assessment against political fallout.

 

Well hopefully their view will never prevail, since it won't help one jot in making the world a safer place to live in.