poppins Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Received this by e-mail today. This man (a Muslim) denounces Islamists and tells the West to wake up. http://livestre.am/Pfu4 People like Halibut would disagree with him I'm sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptoad Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 The first rock and roll record is credited as Rocket 88 by Ike Turner in 1951 "The first rock and roll record" is a relative phrase, personally I think there's earlier rock and roll records than even Rocket 88. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Newell Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I think the fact that this thread has (largely) not been polluted by the usual imbecilic, barely disguised racists/islamophobes goes a long way to demonstrate the point that Boy Friday originally made. Despite the problems which have been highlighted with the Newsnight debate, I agree that the best way to explode the many myths about Islam (which are frequently cited as justifications for extremism and violence) is to pitch articulate exponents from the opposite ends of the same spectrum against each other. This is the only way to show up ignorant thugs like Choudary for who they really are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppins Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Interesting post, good to see a moderate muslim speaking out against islamists. Imagine if right wing Bill O'Reilly made that speech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinnwok Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 way to little effort imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingjimmy Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Imagine if right wing Bill O'Reilly made that speech Bill O'Reilly couldn't make that speech though, he's not nearly intelligent enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinnwok Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 At last the national media have given moderate Muslims an opportunity to challenge the extremists and state their position, of course confirming what most of us already know about mainstream Muslims. Public Enemy No 1, Anjem Choudary was eaten alive by Maajid Nawaz of the Quilliam Foundation (http://www.quilliamfoundation.org/about-us.html) on yesterday's edition of Newsnight. Among the challenging points raised by Nawaz were how much Choudary had claimed in benefits from the British, how hypocritical he was by using his freedom to speak to promote the restriction of freedom for others and whether he would have him executed as a traitor to Islam. It's compulsive viewing and even the usually Rottweiller-like Paxman sat back like a puppydog, watching Nawaz tear into a clearly out of his depth Choudary-which demonstrates the benefits of allowing people like Choudary the freedom to speak, they will invariably shoot themselves in the foot and highlight the flaws in their own argument. The fun begins about 24 mins into the programme on BBc iPlayer. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00pyhj5/Newsnight_12_01_2010/ 13-01-10 any since? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharrowman Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I wonder who commentators understand drive the agenda for panellists on newsnight, or do you imagine that muslims should just ring up and demand to be featured? 'I am a moderate muslim and i demand to be featured on your current affairs programme' Should the people who line up features for news or current affairs programmes or write for papers be the ones who are blamed for the lack of voice given to moderate muslims? Much like there is little voice in the media for, oh i don't know, moderate nose pickers, they call up all the time wanting to knwo why they are not on newsnight, but paxman turns 'em down again and again saying 'people want the extreme nose pickers'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1love Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Rest In Peace to the three brothers that lost their lifes defending our country. And to the father who was so calm and pleaded for peace i salute you! you should all have a look @ the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ1VjUSKevc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1love Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Also was Good to see Sikhs and Muslims coming together and uniting against the Rioters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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