dr_g Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Hello, Messerschmitt Bf-109, on display in Barkers Pool, 1940 Shame I can't figure out how to post images on here, but there you go. I am building a model of this aircraft, and wondered: Does anyone have any info or photos? My Dad saw it displayed in Barkers Pool (outside the City Hall) during the war, and bought a stamp which he was able to stick on the fuselage. It was to raise money for some kind of war fund. I have several photos of the aircraft when it was in service, some information about the pilot too, and also some flight simulator models that someone has made. From the little research I've done, I have come up with this: It was Bf 109 E4 "White 5" of 3rd Gruppe/JG 53 (53rd Fighter wing, possibly based in Guernsey), shot down over Margate, Kent on 6th September 1940. The pilot was Unteroffizier Schulte and the aircraft crash landed near Manston airfield. The swastika has been painted out. That was because the Wing Commander, Hans-Jürgen Erdmann von Cramon-Taubadel married a girl who, in Goering's opinion, was not suitable (Jewish). He therefore ordered the unit to remove their "Ace of Spades" mascot from the cowlings of their Messerschmitts and paint a red band around the noses of their aircraft as a mark of shame. When Cramon-Taubadel was replaced, the “Ace of Spades” mascot was reinstated, but, in response to this, the unit overpainted the swastikas of their aircraft in protest. Any info much appreciated! Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carosio Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I was looking at a pic of this the other day, I'm sure it was in a recent edition of the Star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillsbro Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Hi dr_g - this is a scan of the postcard that was sold at the time. It shows the 'plane being lowered into position on the site of the old Albert Hall (it had burned down in 1937). The money collected went to the Sheffield Newspapers War Fund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_g Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share Posted February 15, 2010 Hi dr_g - this is a scan of the postcard that was sold at the time. It shows the 'plane being lowered into position on the site of the old Albert Hall (it had burned down in 1937). The money collected went to the Sheffield Newspapers War Fund. That's the one. I've got some other pictures showing the aircraft both in service and soon after crashing. I have obtained some transcripts of the original crash reports too. I'd be interested in seeing any other photos of the aircraft when it was in Sheffield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wharnie Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Hi, I have a pic of this plane, (My dads) Looks like, and probably is Sheffield. People looking at it, one sat in cockpit. If you can tell me how, I will post a scan. Also a crashed Heinke 111l? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wharnie Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 I have posted pics on the "Sheffield History" website. "Luftwaffe planes in Sheffield" Hopefully we may get some more information. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janner Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I remember sitting in the ME109, I was 8yrs old, I seem to remember the display of these aircraft was an incentive to by war saving stamps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janner Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I remember sitting in the cockpit of the ME109, we also bought war saving stamps & stuck them on the plane, I was 8yrs old at the time. I have a vague memory that other aircraft where there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I have posted pics on the "Sheffield History" website. "Luftwaffe planes in Sheffield" Hopefully we may get some more information. Mike Here they are http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=8460 Scroll through and there are several excellent pictures. (You have to register with the forum to see images, but it's quick & easy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_g Posted November 25, 2010 Author Share Posted November 25, 2010 Guys, My model of "White 5" is finished now, some pics here if anyone's interested: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=59365 Thanks again for all the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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