Why do some people see the world in black and white/simplistic terms?

[danot]

Finally!!, we're getting somewhere. So you do think there are grey areas then?

 

That's all that anyone is debating. It just went slightly off course on page 1

 

There are loop holes in the law that allows the porn industry to exploit the concept of having sex with children.

 

But if we're talking about the concept of adults that see a child then desire to have sex with that child, thats not a loop hole or a grey area, its plainly obvious to me that its sick and perverse.

[danot]

Signs which you still haven't been clear about! If I knew what signs you were looking out for, I might be able to better understand your absolutism on the issue, since I'd consider you far more capable than I of sniffing out a potential child rapist.

 

 

I'm refering to body language, eye contact.. Stopping, turning around to check them out. basically looking at a child as you would expect them to look at a very attractive adult that they desired to have sex with. We all have an abillity to read someones body language to some degree.

[Alien]

Why would a paedophiles signs be more difficult to read??.. thats what you need to ask yourself. And I can't believe that you've never said that to anyone.

 

 

Iv'e never claimed that paedohpiles can be easily idendtified, so why are you suggesting I have??

 

 

Because of the above? Paedohpiles by their very nature are VERY difficult to read. How many have you reported? How many of those you've reported been convicted? And on what basis did you make the complaint?

 

By the way..no one is accusing or suggesting anything.

[epiphany]

Sorry, can I just go back to the hypothetical strawman from the OP that sparked Harleyman's initial response:

 

Some people who are sexually attracted to children become abusers therefore paedophiles are evil.

 

What I have gathered from views in support of the strawman above is that, apparently, pedophiles are evil whether they abuse children or not. Since sexuality is not something humans are capable of repressing for very long (as psychology has shown) then are we to consider pedophiles evil against even their own will, or are they evil because you believe they are somehow superhuman and able to repress their "evil" sexuality, yet they choose not to?

 

This is plain ignorance of what we know about sexual psychology. People cannot control who (or what) they find sexually attractive, but they can (and do in most cases within the realms of sanity) control whether they physically act out their fantasies.

 

Most people do not want to harm others.

 

For the above reason, I find the absolutism that conflates any sexual preference with rape or abuse utterly ridiculous and unfounded. To demonstrate further the absurdity of the above strawman, I will finish by adding these equally ridiculous claims:

 

Some people who are sexually attracted to the opposite sex become rapists, therefore heterosexuals are evil.

 

Some people who are sexually attracted to the same sex become rapists, therefore homosexuals are evil.

[Alien]

You was talking about an over developed schoolgirl that could pass as eighteen, now you're talking about a 17 year old that looks 14. What point are you trying to make??

 

Now you're showing yourself for who you are...pity that.

 

You keep up the pettiness by quoting numbers.

 

I wont repeat this because it's getting quite boring.

 

If a 17 yr old looks like a 14yr old then the perception is a 14yr old. Because of the perception, not the reality the abuser will abuse, but it's not actually abuse (in a paedophilia sense) as the "child" is actually 17.

 

It isn't B+W

[Halibut]

I was'nt being critasized last night for believing that identifying paedophiles was easy. I was being critasized for believing that, thinking about having sex with children is wrong. I was repeatedly told by your good self and others, that it was'nt necessarily wrong for a paedophile to think sexually about children, it is only if they act out their fantasy that they become a risk.

 

That's is a self evident truth, is it not - since thoughts are harmless.

It is indeed only when a paedophile turns thoughts into actions that they represent a risk.

[danot]

Iv'e never claimed that paedohpiles can be easily idendtified, so why are you suggesting I have??

 

 

Because of the above? Paedohpiles by their very nature are VERY difficult to read. How many have you reported? How many of those you've reported been convicted? And on what basis did you make the complaint?

 

By the way..no one is accusing or suggesting anything.

 

Yes, a paedohphile that does not want to be detected can be very difficult to identify, but so could anyone that pretends that butter would'nt melt...

 

It does'nt make their desire to have sex with children any less vile

[danot]

Sorry, can I just go back to the hypothetical strawman from the OP that sparked Harleyman's initial response:

 

Some people who are sexually attracted to children become abusers therefore paedophiles are evil.

 

What I have gathered from views in support of the strawman above is that, apparently, pedophiles are evil whether they abuse children or not. Since sexuality is not something humans are capable of repressing for very long (as psychology has shown) then are we to consider pedophiles evil against even their own will, or are they evil because you believe they are somehow superhuman and able to repress their "evil" sexuality, yet they choose not to?

 

This is plain ignorance of what we know about sexual psychology. People cannot control who (or what) they find sexually attractive, but they can (and do in most cases within the realms of sanity) control whether they physically act out their fantasies.

 

Most people do not want to harm others.

 

For the above reason, I find the absolutism that conflates any sexual preference with rape or abuse utterly ridiculous and unfounded. To demonstrate further the absurdity of the above strawman, I will finish by adding these equally ridiculous claims:

 

Some people who are sexually attracted to women become rapists, therefore heterosexuals are evil.

 

Some people who are sexually attracted to men become rapists, therefore homosexuals are evil.

 

 

Then you're admitting that it would'nt concern you if they revealed that they were sexually attracted to children, because they are not in control of it.

[danot]

Now you're showing yourself for who you are...pity that.

 

You keep up the pettiness by quoting numbers.

 

I wont repeat this because it's getting quite boring.

 

If a 17 yr old looks like a 14yr old then the perception is a 14yr old. Because of the perception, not the reality the abuser will abuse, but it's not actually abuse (in a paedophilia sense) as the "child" is actually 17.

 

It isn't B+W

 

What do you mean i'm showing myself for who I really am??.. You brought the 14 year old into it. I was asking why you had changed the scenario that I was previously discussing.

[Halibut]

Then you're admitting that it would'nt concern you if they revealed that they were sexually attracted to children, because they are not in control of it.

 

The post you're referring to doesn't say that; you are ascribing beliefs to others that they don't hold.