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Is Israel a rogue state?


Rioja

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That's right

 

Don't you find it a little dishonest to use a partial quote ?

Best traditions of Pallywood to be selective in what is shown or stated.

You're definitely up for nomination of an Oscar, or the Arab equivalent.

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And before it goes down they have the capacity to take all the Arabs with them, whereas if the Arabs had that capacity now they'd have already used it judging by the evil way they conduct themselves on a daily basis.

 

The undeclared nuclear weapons they have yet when other countries try getting them a big fuss is made.

 

You mean like if you "Fire rockets at unarmed Israeli women and children whilst hiding behind unarmed women and children" you'll get your ass kicked and quite rightly so.

 

 

My bold

 

The Palestinians are using the only weapons they have to fight an illegal occupation. Israel has already alienated Turkey and now most of the muslim countries know the score, and you wonder why Jews are hated. Israel is a terrorist state and deserves every bad thing coming to it.

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Don't you find it a little dishonest to use a partial quote ?

Best traditions of Pallywood to be selective in what is shown or stated.

You're definitely up for nomination of an Oscar, or the Arab equivalent.

He quoted your answer and not your padded justification, seems perfectly appropriate and in the context more meaningful than your intransigence to admit the truth.
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So the answer is not too many. The next question would logically be why the indiscriminate bombing of civilians as a collective punishment if those civilians only crime is to be born a Palestinian?

 

I have not seen any claim from the Israelis of having jumped one way or the other concerning rockets fired by Khamas. The rockets were ironically as a result of the frustration brought about by the blockade of the Ghaza strip.[/QUOTE]

 

Your timeline's a little off there old son.

Israel has endured rocket attacks since 2001.

Er, when did the blockade start ?

Here's a clue, subtract three years from 2010.

Don't you find it a little ironic also that no rockets have gone into Egypt even though they were a large part of the blockade ?

Aren't facts a pain in the butt ?

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He quoted your answer and not your padded justification, seems perfectly appropriate and in the context more meaningful than your intransigence to admit the truth.

 

It's called being quoted"out of context" and is often used to put a different spin on a statement.

Unethical journalists use it quite often.

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So the answer is not too many. The next question would logically be why the indiscriminate bombing of civilians as a collective punishment if those civilians only crime is to be born a Palestinian?

 

I have not seen any claim from the Israelis of having jumped one way or the other concerning rockets fired by Khamas. The rockets were ironically as a result of the frustration brought about by the blockade of the Ghaza strip.[/QUOTE]

 

Er, when did the blockade start ?

 

Israel has been controlling the borders for decades, not just since 2007

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Your timeline's a little off there old son.

Israel has endured rocket attacks since 2001.

Er, when did the blockade start ?

Here's a clue, subtract three years from 2010.

Don't you find it a little ironic also that no rockets have gone into Egypt even though they were a large part of the blockade ?

Aren't facts a pain in the butt ?

:roll:After all this time you still mess up with the quote button

 

The last major offensive against the Gazan residents was popularised as a war to stop rockets into civilian areas of Israel. The rockets attacks that started as a result of Israelis breaking the terms of the ceasefire. Here this might give you some understanding as to what happened from( http://www.opendemocracy.net/article/email/israels-attack-on-gaza-an-unjust-war )

There was a 6-month ceasefire declared on June 19, 2008 and broken by Israel on November 4, 2008. Under the terms of the ceasefire, Israel was expected to ease its blockade on Gaza and there were to be negotiations on the release of prisoners, such as the one Israeli, Gilad Shalit, and the roughly 11,000 Palestinians. Negotiations on the latter took place; however, Israel has not lifted its blockade at any point. All evidence shows that this was a successful ceasefire with respect to the primary condition: that both sides stop firing. Mark Regev, spokesman for the Israeli Prime Minister, confirmed that there were no rockets fired by Hamas during the ceasefire. The Israeli Intelligence and Terrorism Centre stated in a report that "Hamas has been careful to maintain the ceasefire". Hamas also made a number of arrests of violators during this period.

 

Israel broke the ceasefire 4½ months in when the IDF raided a tunnel and killed 6 people alleged to be members of Hamas. Though widely reported (e.g. The Guardian, Reuters, New York Times) this was largely ignored in light of the US presidential elections, which took place on the same day.

 

As well as breaking the ceasefire, Israel's lack of interest in sustaining it was evident in their decision to attack in spite of Hamas's calls for a renewal of the ceasefire. A delegation to Egypt on December 14 said that Hamas was prepared to stop all renewed rocket attacks. Furthermore, at an Israeli cabinet meeting on 21st December the head of Israel's Internal Security Agency, Yuval Diskin, told the cabinet that Hamas is interested in continuing the truce conditional on (a) an end to the blockade and (b) a ceasefire in the West Bank. Despite this, Israel invaded Gaza six days later.

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