Black Police Association

[Wildcat]

This is debate about the BPA not the BNP.

 

The original post was about a comparison between the BPA and the BNP.

 

Question. What is the differance with the 'Black Police Association' not letting a non black officer join their club and the BNP not allowing non whites to join their club? Are both guilty of discrimination? or do the Black Police Association have a token right to discriminate on the grounds of some inverted political correctness.

 

Ever since the original post this thread has been about the BNP.

[Wildcat]

Are you trying to imply that i am a member of the BNP?

 

Reading back through the posts that is precisely what you have been implying.

[Kidorry]

Boy you have all shown your faces now.

[boyfriday]

Don`t be so patronising.Are you aware that there are also black suprematists also?

 

..and thankfully none of them are seeking parliamentary representation.

[Kidorry]

Your bait is not big enough to catch me,but keep trying.

[frank ryan]

BNP are a racist neo nazi organisation, the pope's a catholic, bears crap in the woods - that's the facts.

The black police assoc is open to black white brown yellow etc officers, it is NOT a racist organisation - black / brown etc people are many times more likely to come to the attention of the police, non white coppers are many times more likely to be disciplined, sacked , leave than white ones when based on study of the same transgressions. THIS AIN'T NEW, WE'VE KNOWN THIS FOR YEARS!!! and that's why it's a good thing that there is a BPA.

Ain't rocket science.

 

PS there's a met copper out there who bludgeoned an innocent ****** guy to death and we don't know his name/cressida dick who screwed up the post 7/7 operation leading to the public execution of a painter and decorator got the queen's police medal.

 

If the Black Police Association wants to employ only black people then they should be free to do so without being accused of anti-white racism.At the end of the day we live in a democracy and any organisation political or non political should have the "freedom of association".

 

But since the Labour party are scared stiff of losing seats to the BNP the EHRC-labour-quango decided to launched an attack on the BNP, drag them into court and try to bankrupt them via court costs.

 

Here is a response from the BNP

 

Frequently Asked Questions

 

 

Why doesn't the BNP stand its ground and fight the Equalities Commission? Why are we changing our Constitution when the law is not yet in force?

 

We are standing our ground, and doing so has already cost us tens of thousands of pounds. The Equalities Commission timed their legal assault to interfere with our General Election preparations. They claimed that our present constitution not only will be illegal under the forthcoming Equality Act (which it clearly would, because this wicked 'law' has been tailor-made to deal with the BNP) but that it is also illegal under the present law. We dispute this, but to engage in a legal battle that could easily end up costing us £250,000 to try to prove that point - which will almost certainly be irrelevant within a couple of months - would be utter madness.

 

It was a simple choice: Contest that on their ground in court, or contest the General Election. We are a practical party fighting in the real world for the rights of our people. Victory in the left-leaning court system would have been very unlikely, and we would then have been forced to pay the Equalities Commission gargantuan legal costs as well as losing our own. Such futile show-boating could easily have bankrupted us.

 

Why has our membership list been frozen?

We undertook to freeze membership applications because by doing so we instantly made it impossible for the Equalities Commission to claim that our admissions policy is discriminatory. If we hadn't done this they would immediately have been able to launch full blown legal warfare that would have cost the Party an enormous sum of money and virtually destroyed any chance of our contesting the General Election. The freezing of our membership list enabled us a 'breathing space' of several months in order to change our Constitution, making our membership criteria compliant with the forthcoming Equality Act that is being rushed through Parliament.

 

We have no real choice in the matter, any attempt to circumvent or deviate from the brittle undertaking to the court would result in financial disaster for the Party and certain ruin. We certainly didn't agree to this lightly. The membership ban is seriously hitting our finances and organisation, and has stunted our General Election preparations - which was their plan all along. But it was clearly much the lesser of two evils.

Why has the court process, and the process of producing a new Constitution, dragged out for so long?

Solicitors are very expensive to hire and until the decision to put the new constitutional changes to the membership had been taken by the Voting Members at National Conference, it would have been folly to spend money on legal researchers in advance. So until mid November when the Conference took place, our hands were tied. Once Conference had made the decision to put the new constitutional changes to an EGM, solicitors were hired to produce a legally sound new constitution for the Party. Then several more factors delayed the production of the proposed new constitution.

 

First, to stand even a chance of creating a constitution which would come within the Equality Act without leaving the party wide open to the kind of subversion being planned by the likes of Simon Wooley and Operation Black Vote, we had to find lawyers who were experts in Race Relations and anti-discrimination laws. Since every single existing firm of specialists in this field is fundamentally left-wing, that meant that we had to find a normal, non-political, firm willing to start from scratch becoming expert in this enormously complicated area of the law. Second, with the far-left and police regularly intimidating venue owners we had difficulty finding a suitable place to hold an EGM. Then the bitter winter weather caused delays and cancellations to several key meetings with our lawyers, disrupting the extremely tight timetable laid down by the court, thus in the end putting our planned EGM on 14th February sixteen days past the date first agreed.

Is this whole saga a disguised attempt to ban the BNP by the backdoor?

 

The end result of the Equalities Commission court case is that the right of ethnic groups to associate amongst themselves is outlawed, and any attempt to do so will result in legal retribution. However, what is also apparent is 'one rule for them and one rule for us' - the Equalities Commission is engaging in selective prosecution on a truly breathtaking scale. Why the BNP now, 28 years after its foundation? Why not haul into court similar ethno-centric organisations? If the Equalities Commission had its way, the BNP would not exist at all.

 

This was apparent by their statements at the last court date, where they seemingly dropped all reference to our admissions policy and instead started lambasting the principles that underpin our Constitution, such as our commitment to preserving the indigenous ethnic and cultural character of the British people. Ethno-nationalism is then the first ideology and viewpoint to be outlawed in democratic Britain. From the start of the court case onwards, ethno-nationalist political organisations cannot exist, except in prostrated form, and take part in the political process. Welcome to totalitarian Britain.

 

Will the Equality Act become law if the Conservatives win the election?

 

Prime Minister Gordon Brown and the Leader of the House of Commons, Harriet Harman (the person responsible for deciding/timetabling Parliamentary business), are hell-bent on forcing the Equality Act through before the forthcoming General Election. The judge in the last hearing stated categorically his opinion that the current Bill will become law very shortly. Even if by chance that doesn't happen, anyone who thinks that David Cameron's ultra-liberal Conservative Party would scrap the Bill clearly doesn't understand just how much Cameron has been created and promoted as a clone of Tony Blair, in order to carry on Blair's work.

 

Just this week, Cameron has declared his intention to give Africans with AIDS an automatic right to asylum and medical care in Britain. The idea that such a creature would let us off the hook is ridiculous. We have to prepare to survive the worst this rotten Establishment can throw at us. But in truth it doesn't even matter. The Equality Commission's attack was launched under current law, and had to be dealt with now. Waiting to see who wins the next election just wasn't an option.

 

Will the new constitutional changes lead to a multi-racial BNP?

 

The new constitutional changes comply with the forthcoming provisions of the Equality Act, thus making the BNP a legal entity once the new law comes into force. There is simply no alternative, except to face legal financial meltdown, and not being able to take part in elections. As for the BNP becoming a 'multi-racial' organisation, this will never happen. Nationalist political parties all over Europe such as the Front National in France, and more 'hardline' parties in many parts of Europe, have always had to allow ethnic minorities to join their respective organisations. This has never led to them becoming 'multi-racial' and it has never hindered their progress.

 

In the experience of nationalist parties on the Continent, only small numbers of patriotic civic ethnic minorities join and there is no reason to suppose that our experience - if the new constitution is accepted - will be any different. Among the changes and expansions to the constitution are many clauses designed to prevent any group who wish us ill from infiltrating and derailing the BNP. The biggest danger there never was the empty boasting of Simon Wooley and his fellow black racists, but impeccably white but liberal civic nationalists, refugees from the Tory party and such like. The new constitution gives significantly extra weight to the people who are already in the party, who have been 'through the mill' when times were really difficult. This does not discriminate against any ethnic group, but it will keep Johnny-Come-Latelys in their place.

 

Is Chairman Nick Griffin not willing to go to jail rather than capitulate in the face of establishment persecution?

 

Chairman Nick Griffin has made it very clear that he would regard being sent to prison on this matter of principle as a tremendous moral and political victory. But, unfortunately that is not the 'risk' we are facing. The penalties if we resist the Equalities Commission and the Equality Act would be overwhelmingly financial, further astronomical court costs and being deregistered as a political party and hence banned from standing in elections. Should we choose to adopt a stubborn, irresponsible posture, we would be financially ruined, tied up in expensive litigation and barred from taking part in the democratic process.

 

The choice we face is stark and non-negotiable: adapt to the new legislation, and survive, or face total and irreversible ruin. Fortunately the Voting Members took this point on board at the Annual Conference, where the vote in principle of complying with the Equality Act and keeping up the political fight was passed with only two individuals voting against. If the members who come and vote at next weekend's EGM show the same level-headed determination, we will present the new constitution to the judge during the first week of March, and anticipate that we would then be able to reopen our Membership and get back to business as usual. Poorer, but still standing, still in the game, and still working to win!

 

Can you just imaging the screams of racism if britain had "music of WHITE origin awards"

[DragonofAna]

Got a right list of racists on here - halibut; wildcat; boyfriday - to name but a few. Wow! Surprised so many of you dare come out of the woodwork. (snigger)

[melthebell]

(snigger)

 

good job that wasnt a typo

[DragonofAna]

good job that wasnt a typo

 

Yeah - made me chuckle. Was not intentional. Nicely spotted.

 

But seriously - seems to me that what is black is fine and what is white should be black - or something like that as far as some folk are concerned on here.

 

It's alright having some association called Black Blah blah and saying its open to all races but why the hades would none blacks want to join a black organisation? Just seems odd that its okay to have Black this or that aimed primarily at black people but have a party called the White Britain Party - even though it be open to all - would be instantly decried as a racist nazi organization.

 

Just how it seems to come across.

[melthebell]

But seriously - seems to me that what is black is fine and what is white should be black - or something like that as far as some folk are concerned on here.

 

or who cares whats black and whats white lets just get on with life