wozman Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Whilst i would love to see some top end shops move into our city, i cant see it happening. The city centre has been declining for years, and no amount of redevelopment will stop that. The simple fact is that we arent as affluent a community as the likes of Leeds or Manchester, so "big" designer names are less likely to want to risk coming here for the minority of us that are daft enough to pay the prices they charge. With internet shopping on the rise, and Meadowhall down the road, served with great public transport links as well as free parking, its hardly a surprise that the centre has suffered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 He's a councillor for Southey for God's sake. What has his ward got to do with anything? Churchill was MP for Oldham. Bevin represented Wandsworth and Bevan Ebbw Vale. I suppose in your book that means we lost WW2 and you oppose the NHS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Thats funny because I thought the Hallam district was one of the most affluent area's in the entire country? Development will stop the decline of the city centre, but it must be done right. You can't just shove in a bunch of new shops and flats without providing provisions for people to actually get there - thats something our council are pretty poor at doing, and it's why Meadowhall is streets ahead in the retail sector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) What has his ward got to do with anything? Churchill was MP for Oldham. Bevin represented Wandsworth and Bevan Ebbw Vale. I suppose in your book that means we lost WW2 and you oppose the NHS. Genuine question.. what business skill does MR Bramall bring to the city? He used to be a PR man didn't he? Edited July 30, 2013 by truman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) You can't just shove in a bunch of new shops and flats without providing provisions for people to actually get there - thats something our council are pretty poor at doing, and it's why Meadowhall is streets ahead in the retail sector. Meadowhall's developers carefully chose a location with very good transport links and constructed a prurose built shoppinig adn leaisure centre. The city centre is where it is and has a road system which has evolved over centruries. I is home to thousands of pople and a lot of different uses. So, the two are very different. However, in terms of transport, what do you think that Meadowhall has got that the city centre hasn't? ---------- Post added 30-07-2013 at 12:25 ---------- Then there's the dreaded parking which the city centre will never be able to compete with meadowhall on that front. What is "dreadful" about parking in the city centre? Ther's as much parking as at Meadowhall and its easily accessible. Edited July 30, 2013 by Planner1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Like I said before, I don't think expansion of the city centre is the answer. My personal opinion is that the council needs to lower the rents/rates substantially, provide free parking, better transport links e.g. use Fargate and the Moor as roads and develop some areas .eg. flatten the Moorfoot Building Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Like I said before, I don't think expansion of the city centre is the answer. My personal opinion is that the council needs to lower the rents/rates substantially, provide free parking, better transport links e.g. use Fargate and the Moor as roads and develop some areas .eg. flatten the Moorfoot Building So just how are they going to do that when the Council don't own the properties and the government set business rates? Moorfoot is a potential development site and the Council would vacate it if the right developer came along with a proposal. Re-opening pedestrianised areas to traffic is counter-intuitive and isn't going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narden Dee Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 So just how are they going to do that when the Council don't own the properties and the government set business rates? Moorfoot is a potential development site and the Council would vacate it if the right developer came along with a proposal. Re-opening pedestrianised areas to traffic is counter-intuitive and isn't going to happen. no they wouldnt they have moved the majority of council staff into moorfoot which was given for free to save money on renting non council space in town. on this Planner i feel you are wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wozman Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Thats funny because I thought the Hallam district was one of the most affluent area's in the entire country? Thats true. Its very much an exception to the rule though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 So just how are they going to do that when the Council don't own the properties and the government set business rates? Moorfoot is a potential development site and the Council would vacate it if the right developer came along with a proposal. Re-opening pedestrianised areas to traffic is counter-intuitive and isn't going to happen. So how do the council make money from shops? I'm not sure the council operates in Moorfoot or even owns it. I do know that at specific stages the DfES, DWP and Home Office were housed in their. Why is the reopening of predstrianised areas to traffic counter-intuitive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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