roosterboost Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Seven grave stones may be better, makes is sound more morbid. Meadowhall, the grave stone of the town centre. The Castle market, a grave stone of a real market going back donkeys years. Sheffield Airport, a grave stone of air travel to and from Sheffield. The Student games - Demolition of Don valley stadium (RIP). Ski village (RIP) The Cooling tower landmarks (RIP) The Hole in the Road, gone but not forgotten. Yorkshire & even England playing cricket in Sheffield. Long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marketman Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 So what has gone wrong with Sheffield? Surely it cannot be all the fault of the council? Sheffield is what? The 5th largest city in England? There must be a good reason why developers don't look at our city centre as a good investment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dosxuk Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 So what has gone wrong with Sheffield? Surely it cannot be all the fault of the council? Sheffield is what? The 5th largest city in England? There must be a good reason why developers don't look at our city centre as a good investment? Because the local population is so negative. I know of a couple of businesses who have looked at opening interesting little shops in Sheffield, but decided the locals would just complain too much so opened (successfully) in Leeds instead. It doesn't seem to matter if you're a small independent trader, or a multi-national, you're always in the wrong place, never stock the right items, are too busy, are too quiet, charge too much and attract the wrong sort of customers. And that's if people accept the shop! Too many people are too happy with Sheffield having a town centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossyrooney Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Because the local population is so negative. I know of a couple of businesses who have looked at opening interesting little shops in Sheffield, but decided the locals would just complain too much so opened (successfully) in Leeds instead. It doesn't seem to matter if you're a small independent trader, or a multi-national, you're always in the wrong place, never stock the right items, are too busy, are too quiet, charge too much and attract the wrong sort of customers. And that's if people accept the shop! Too many people are too happy with Sheffield having a town centre. I am in 100% agreement with this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 So what has gone wrong with Sheffield? Surely it cannot be all the fault of the council? Sheffield is what? The 5th largest city in England? There must be a good reason why developers don't look at our city centre as a good investment? We might be the 5th largest city - but we're only the 9th largest conurbation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_urban_areas_in_the_United_Kingdom Look at the size of Greater Manchester and West Yorkshire and then realise why it is pointless to compare Sheffield to Manchester and Leeds as so many do. Also note that unlike some lower down the list - Bristol, Leicester, Cardiff as examples - we're not a regional centre or "county town". To an outsider looking to invest there must be at least a dozen or so more attractive places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Because the local population is so negative. I know of a couple of businesses who have looked at opening interesting little shops in Sheffield, but decided the locals would just complain too much so opened (successfully) in Leeds instead. It doesn't seem to matter if you're a small independent trader, or a multi-national, you're always in the wrong place, never stock the right items, are too busy, are too quiet, charge too much and attract the wrong sort of customers. And that's if people accept the shop! Too many people are too happy with Sheffield having a town centre. Spot on. Have a look around this forum alone, its where's the cheapest this and rip off that and does anyone know where to get a free/cheap so and so. These are most likely the same people who bang on about "why does leeds get a Harvey Nichols and we don't" "...Why is our shopping centre not as good as theirs." Businesses will chose a location if they think there is enough demand for their product. I have said before on these threads, for all the protesting and whining, how many Sheffield people regularly would go and buy a £100+ t shirt, £50+ make up, £700+ suit or stop for lunch at £25.00 a head or pop in for an evening cocktail or glass of wine at £14.00+ per glass or £30+ a bottle each and every week. .....sorry, what's that? Rip off? Outrageous prices? Ah, that's why you aint gonna see any of the prestigious department stores near this city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttsie Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Spot on. Have a look around this forum alone, its where's the cheapest this and rip off that and does anyone know where to get a free/cheap so and so. These are most likely the same people who bang on about "why does leeds get a Harvey Nichols and we don't" "...Why is our shopping centre not as good as theirs." Businesses will chose a location if they think there is enough demand for their product. I have said before on these threads, for all the protesting and whining, how many Sheffield people regularly would go and buy a £100+ t shirt, £50+ make up, £700+ suit or stop for lunch at £25.00 a head or pop in for an evening cocktail or glass of wine at £14.00+ per glass or £30+ a bottle each and every week. .....sorry, what's that? Rip off? Outrageous prices? Ah, that's why you aint gonna see any of the prestigious department stores near this city. Quite a few people do not have £100 or even £50 per week to live on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemist Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 As a matter of interest, how many other towns/cities suffer the same obsession of the council that EVERYTHING must be in the city/town centre, no matter how unsuitable that a central location would be? How many are just happy that businesses are actually coming to their locale and providing employment, income and taxes no matter whereabouts in the town/city boundaries they choose to locate themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penistone999 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 As a matter of interest, how many other towns/cities suffer the same obsession of the council that EVERYTHING must be in the city/town centre, no matter how unsuitable that a central location would be? How many are just happy that businesses are actually coming to their locale and providing employment, income and taxes no matter whereabouts in the town/city boundaries they choose to locate themselves Dont forget sheffield almost lost the massive investment and job creation that the new Next home and garden store near meadowhall has given the city because of its obsession with the city centre. Luckily the planning appeal people used common sense and applied the correct decision , the one the council should have given in the first place . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 As a matter of interest, how many other towns/cities suffer the same obsession of the council that EVERYTHING must be in the city/town centre, no matter how unsuitable that a central location would be? How many are just happy that businesses are actually coming to their locale and providing employment, income and taxes no matter whereabouts in the town/city boundaries they choose to locate themselves It's a central government policy rather than a council policy. https://www.gov.uk/government/policies/improving-high-streets-and-town-centres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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