ubermaus Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Four trains an hour not enough for you then? Same as what Leeds-Manchester is. And the fast one takes 40 mins. Seems decent enough to me. EDIT - beg my pardon, its actually FIVE an hour. OK, two of them are slow and take 80 mins, but the other two I havent mentioned take an hour and only have three scheduled stops in the main. Cant see the issue. You cant see the issue cos you've never had to do it obviously. It's 1 fast train an hour. You have one at 7:09 and another at 8:22 which gets in at 9:01. Not ideal timing. Over busy trains. Delays. Putting another 1 or 2 fast trains on in peak periods would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DnAuK Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 You do have to cross two 4 lane roads. If we're in dream world they should bury the road that goes directly past the station, and expand what is already an excellent public space in front of the station, there's plenty of derelict land there for a couple of restaurants or if that's not a goer they could just you know expand the public space. I personally don't have any trouble wirh crossing the roads. There are plenty of safe pedestrian crossings. But I agree there is a lot of space available for development of things to attract people. In addition to the site next to Electric works, there's one to the left of the fountains and sculpture and the grassy area behind the Howard. If theis area had more restaurants, cafes, bars... even the obligatory gift type stores that other towns seem to have... its would be better than nowt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiggs Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Sheffield to Manchester via Barnsley. Through a reopened and refurbished Woodhead tunnel. Going to Manchester Victoria instead of Piccadilly. It's pretty irrelevant to us which route they take to get to Manchester I'm happy with their current plans to add extra services via the Hope Valley line and have Sheffield trains go through Victoria instead of Piccadilly. Central government are apparently lining up future expansion of the route whether that will actually happen or not is entirely another thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubermaus Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I have trouble crossing the road, without someone holding my hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DnAuK Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 They easily can by changing, a direct train wouldnt shave that much time off it given line speeds and the like. No capacity on the ECML to run it that way so would have to go the scenic route either via Retford and Lincoln or, ahem, Nottingham. Tried changing trains and platforms with a bunch of sprogs and a few pushcairs, plus all the necessary gear for a day out, have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas1 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 You cant see the issue cos you've never had to do it obviously. It's 1 fast train an hour. You have one at 7:09 and another at 8:22 which gets in at 9:01. Not ideal timing. Over busy trains. Delays. Putting another 1 or 2 fast trains on in peak periods would help. I just dont do it in peak periods, if I want to go to Leeds I look at my National Rail Enquiries app, see which ones take 40 minutes, and time my arrival at the train station accordingly. Heck, even the 60 minute one isnt a hardship. ---------- Post added 20-05-2015 at 06:54 ---------- Tried changing trains and platforms with a bunch of sprogs and a few pushcairs, plus all the necessary gear for a day out, have you? Yes, my own two kids. Next question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DnAuK Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 It's pretty irrelevant to us which route they take to get to Manchester I'm happy with their current plans to add extra services via the Hope Valley line and have Sheffield trains go through Victoria instead of Piccadilly. Central government are apparently lining up future expansion of the route whether that will actually happen or not is entirely another thing. It's not irrelevant to those of us who live in Barnsley! ;c) Seriously for a town of almost quarter of a million people that is pretty much equidistant between Sheffield, Leeds and Manchester, the transport links are pretty shoddy. Besides, the Hope Valley link takes forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubermaus Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I just dont do it in peak periods A lot of people dont have that luxury pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DnAuK Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I have trouble crossing the road, without someone holding my hand. Is that before or after beer? ;c) ---------- Post added 20-05-2015 at 15:56 ---------- I just dont do it in peak periods, if I want to go to Leeds I look at my National Rail Enquiries app, see which ones take 40 minutes, and time my arrival at the train station accordingly. Heck, even the 60 minute one isnt a hardship. ---------- Post added 20-05-2015 at 06:54 ---------- Yes, my own two kids. Next question? Fair enough - just asking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas1 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) It's not irrelevant to those of us who live in Barnsley! ;c) Seriously for a town of almost quarter of a million people that is pretty much equidistant between Sheffield, Leeds and Manchester, the transport links are pretty shoddy. Besides, the Hope Valley link takes forever. To people from Sheffield it takes 50 mins or so. Sending Sheffield people up the line to Barnsley and then across on a line that doesnt exist anymore would take just as long, so its a moot point. Barnsley has three trains a hour to Leeds and four an hour to Sheffield. I would hardly call that "shoddy". Everywhere in the North cant be connected directly to everywhere. Barnsley and Doncaster arent far from each other yet you have to change at Meadowhall, just the way it is. Edited May 20, 2015 by Vegas1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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