ploder Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Good article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esme Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 damn, I wish I'd written that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spooky3 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 It depends whether it is a proporionate response to the threat. Asking people not to leave and to report unattended baggage, proportionate. Police with machine guns on display at Leeds station disproportionate. Well I remember see Police with guns at Leeds station in the early nineties, nothing to do with any form of Muslim threat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Wasn't it Benjamin Franklin who nicely summarised the issue several hundred years ago? Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both. Do you leave your front door open, key's in the car, not worry about the kids (due to drugs, knifes, rape, etc)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 The thing is that most people recognise that the "terror threat" is virtually non existent so scare tactics no longer work. The last serious terror attack in Britain was in 2005, nearly 5 years ago, so what have all these mysterious terrorists been doing since then? Trying ! ! ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 It's a big fat sodding bribe for killing people by the thousand. Dunno if they'd care if they killed or not, but it is a reason to buy / sell weaponry. Pls take this bit separately... Wars throughout history has made great impacts on science and technology! Sorry to say, the world owes a lot to war... Whether we needed it in the first place is another question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 ;6061469']"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin. ...wise words indeed Ben. http://books.google.com/books?id=W2MFAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA270&lpg=PA270t#v=onepage&q=&f=false Not that i'm anti government in any way, but he was the head of a government who had police, jails, armies... dare I even say slavery... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Although if my bus to work were to blow up, then my views might change. So if / when it affects you, your happy to become a hypocrite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 It's time to rip down those damn surveillance cameras. Forgetting terrorism, don't we still need and want those cameras to protect ourselves from our own neighbours... (Hint: crime!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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