Are Christians discriminated against in the UK?

[Eater Sundae]

And obviously it does not operate either where religion is concerned judging by the number of people who were brought up to go to church but rejected religion around the age of fourteen or so.

 

Do you think it is a complete coincidence when children brought up in a religious environment (be it Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Jewish etc) ultimately chose the same religion as their parents and their environment?

 

It must be really confusing in places such as Northern Ireland, what with all those Catholic children born to Protestant parents. But at least the overall demographic remains the same, because of the Catholic parents who are lucky enough to have Protestant Children. Isn't nature wonderful.

 

You just haven't thought it through, have you?

[Grahame]

so, the laws that had clearly been given at the time of the Exodus , and before the days of the kings of Israel (of whom Daoud {David, PBUH} was one) happened after Daoud?

 

I recommend you go back to school.

 

During the hundred years that followed the Assyrian conquest of Israel, the Levites in Judah began to compile the written Law. In 621 BC they produced Deuteronomy and read it to the people in the temple at Jerusalem.

 

This was the birth of "the Mosaic law", which Moses, if he ever lived, never knew. It is called the Mosaic law because it is attributed to him, but the authorities agree that it was the product of the Levites, who then and later repeatedly made Moses (and for that matter, Jehovah) say what suited them. Its correct description would be "the Levitical law" or "the Judaic law".

 

http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/judaism/115688-law-levites.html

 

The important thing to remember is that all the bloodshed for example was the result of the priests who set themselves up as God and all the violence is attributable to the priests (Levities) who were from the same tribe as Moses and it is called the Mosaic law. It was the priests who governed the people with all their laws.

[Eater Sundae]

All you need to do is to understand the Bible. See my next post to PT.

 

 

A glib, meaningless answer. How do you know which bits of the bible are the bits which should be followed? Could it be the bits you were taught, in a Christian environment, or the bits a Jewish child would be taught, or the bits a muslim child would be taught?

[Plain Talker]

During the hundred years that followed the Assyrian conquest of Israel, the Levites in Judah began to compile the written Law. In 621 BC they produced Deuteronomy and read it to the people in the temple at Jerusalem.

 

This was the birth of "the Mosaic law", which Moses, if he ever lived, never knew. It is called the Mosaic law because it is attributed to him, but the authorities agree that it was the product of the Levites, who then and later repeatedly made Moses (and for that matter, Jehovah) say what suited them. Its correct description would be "the Levitical law" or "the Judaic law".

 

http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/judaism/115688-law-levites.html

 

The important thing to remember is that all the bloodshed for example was the result of the priests who set themselves up as God and all the violence is attributable to the priests (Levities) who were from the same tribe as Moses and it is called the Mosaic law. It was the priests who governed the people with all their laws.

 

it's interesting that the opening words of Deuteronomy are (chapter1v1) are thus:-

These are the words Moses spoke to all Israel in the desert east of the Jordan

 

Their history has to be far older than the C 7 BCE... they must have been passed down traditionally by word of mouth (As much of history was, in oralist society) until the scribes committed them to paper in the C 7 BCE.

 

Therefore Daoud would have followed those laws, living only 3/400 years earlier, in around 1,000 BCE.

[Grahame]

Do you think it is a complete coincidence when children brought up in a religious environment (be it Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Jewish etc) ultimately chose the same religion as their parents and their environment?

 

It must be really confusing in places such as Northern Ireland, what with all those Catholic children born to Protestant parents. But at least the overall demographic remains the same, because of the Catholic parents who are lucky enough to have Protestant Children. Isn't nature wonderful.

 

You just haven't thought it through, have you?

 

In Sheffield of old it was "like father, like son" and the working class voted labout. Now several things have happened, the demographics have changed, for example there are many more students in Sheffield and many remain here after uni, also people's have relocated to Sheffield from places like London, and also people are thinking for themselves instead of following family tradition. Yes, I have thought it through, I continue to think it through and as a result I become firmer in my convictions than ever before.

[Plain Talker]

You just haven't thought it through, have you?

 

he rarely does.....

[Grahame]

A glib, meaningless answer. How do you know which bits of the bible are the bits which should be followed? Could it be the bits you were taught, in a Christian environment, or the bits a Jewish child would be taught, or the bits a muslim child would be taught?

 

Christianity is good. Jesus preached a positivly beneficial message. The Ten Commandments keep us and our families safe and the Bible is a faithful record of all that happened with nothing taken out. The 'bad' bits considering the Bible comprises 66 books are few and far between and it is easy for atheists to separate out the good from the bad and this is what they cherry pick without even taking it in context and if you take time to study the Bible you will find that the bad things all point towards the law makers and the rulers. In other words the cause of all the trouble lies with the people who were a stiff stiff-necked and disobedient people.

[Eater Sundae]

In Sheffield of old it was "like father, like son" and the working class voted labout. Now several things have happened, the demographics have changed, for example there are many more students in Sheffield and many remain here after uni, also people's have relocated to Sheffield from places like London, and also people are thinking for themselves instead of following family tradition.

 

This is true, but totally irrelevent. Many people follow a particular religion because of their environment when they were young. They didn't research alternatives and decide on which one they preferred. It was not a conscious choice. Are you denying this?

[Grahame]

This is true, but totally irrelevent. Many people follow a particular religion because of their environment when they were young. They didn't research alternatives and decide on which one they preferred. It was not a conscious choice. Are you denying this?

 

Totally irrelevant my foot. People are thinking for themselves, people convert to other religions and PT is an example of that, and people even construct their own cults of which there are many examples. As for people following the religion of their parents you only have to read the forum to see that is not the case.

[Grahame]

it's interesting that the opening words of Deuteronomy are (chapter1v1) are thus:-

 

 

Their history has to be far older than the C 7 BCE... they must have been passed down traditionally by word of mouth (As much of history was, in oralist society) until the scribes committed them to paper in the C 7 BCE.

 

Therefore Daoud would have followed those laws, living only 3/400 years earlier, in around 1,000 BCE.

 

Read what others write.

 

 

This was the birth of "the Mosaic law", which Moses, if he ever lived, never knew. It is called the Mosaic law because it is attributed to him, but the authorities agree that it was the product of the Levites, who then and later repeatedly made Moses (and for that matter, Jehovah) say what suited them. Its correct description would be "the Levitical law" or "the Judaic law".