garrence Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 The shooting is between 3m and 7m on the video. The helicopter zooms in quite closely on the 8 people walking around. You can see the cameras over the shoulders of the cameramen and not aiming at anyone. Those in the helicopter convince themselves its a RPG (rocket propelled grenade?). They radio for permission to "engage", fly around for a while longer then shoot. Why are they so dumb and trigger happy that they immediately assume these people are carrying weapons? They had plenty of time. They have an excellent zoom facility. If they exercised just a little care then they would not have made such a tragic mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrence Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Al Jazeera is covering the Wikileaks story. Edit: sorry to repost that link... I'm too trigger happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrence Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 That didnt stop Al Jazeera running film on people getting their heads cut off. They're not a news station more like an obscene hate spouting sicko outfit. Could you provide links to some of their articles to justify your "obscene hate spouting sicko" claim? For comparison, is Fox News also an "obscene hate spouting sicko outfit", or does the term not apply to hate-filled stations that toe the Republican line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tradescanthia Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 That didnt stop Al Jazeera running film on people getting their heads cut off. They're not a news station more like an obscene hate spouting sicko outfit. Spot on mate, Al Jazeera should have been 'sorted' years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab1 Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Uncivilised Murdering self righteous Barstewards!! If any Iraqui refereed to September 11th attacks as an engagement or the 7/7 as an engagement and called it collateral damage, as these trigger happy Yanks apparently do after killing civillians, what would your view of that be? The war zone was created by the Yanks, it wasn't a conflict that the Iraqis invited, and the dumb idiots have the nerve to say it was the their own fault for bringing kids into a battle' and the other scum bag agrees by saying that's right, a bit like the luvies backing each other up on here. And no Halrleyman, a white skin wrapped around a human being is no more important than a brown skin wrapped around an Iraqi, murder is wrong whoever commits it, so stop trying to divert the wrongdoing of the yanks to your own petty bickering about Sunnis and Shi'ites.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Could you provide links to some of their articles to justify your "obscene hate spouting sicko" claim? For comparison, is Fox News also an "obscene hate spouting sicko outfit", or does the term not apply to hate-filled stations that toe the Republican line? Whatever Fox News is to anyone at least they dont show hostages having their heads sawed off with a knife. Comparing Fox News with Al Jazeera is just plain stupid and illogical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Uncivilised Murdering self righteous Barstewards!! If any Iraqui refereed to September 11th attacks as an engagement or the 7/7 as an engagement and called it collateral damage, as these trigger happy Yanks apparently do after killing civillians, what would your view of that be? The war zone was created by the Yanks, it wasn't a conflict that the Iraqis invited, and the dumb idiots have the nerve to say it was the their own fault for bringing kids into a battle' and the other scum bag agrees by saying that's right, a bit like the luvies backing each other up on here. And no Halrleyman, a white skin wrapped around a human being is no more important than a brown skin wrapped around an Iraqi, murder is wrong whoever commits it, so stop trying to divert the wrongdoing of the yanks to your own petty bickering about Sunnis and Shi'ites.. Why not? We're talking murder here. Lets talk about war and murder it's all relevant to this thread even if the Yank phobes want to think otherwise. But of course if the whole idea of starting this thread was yet another amongst thousands of others about the evil doings of the bad old Yanks then get on with yoour petty postings and mutual back slappings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 The shooting is between 3m and 7m on the video. The helicopter zooms in quite closely on the 8 people walking around. You can see the cameras over the shoulders of the cameramen and not aiming at anyone. Those in the helicopter convince themselves its a RPG (rocket propelled grenade?). They radio for permission to "engage", fly around for a while longer then shoot. Why are they so dumb and trigger happy that they immediately assume these people are carrying weapons? They had plenty of time. They have an excellent zoom facility. If they exercised just a little care then they would not have made such a tragic mistake. So now you're an expert on what goes on in a helicopter are you? Have you ever flown in a chopper other than around Blackpool pier? No course not. Just another armchair warrior, Too bad they still dont call up people for military service. They could do with brains and expertise from people like you. Show em how it's done right by god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Could you provide links to some of their articles to justify your "obscene hate spouting sicko" claim? For comparison, is Fox News also an "obscene hate spouting sicko outfit", or does the term not apply to hate-filled stations that toe the Republican line? Al Jazeera has shown at least one beheading that I know of and which took place a few years back. Very little was shown of it on local channels here. Just the hostage surrounded by the executioners before the act was done. I dont imagine that any news media in this part of the world would show such a thing anyway. We may not be the epitome of the ideal civilization but we've moved on from medieval public displays of barbarity which however unfortunately, still seem to to enthrall and entertain our middle east bretheren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spideyland Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Al Jazeera has shown at least one beheading that I know of and which took place a few years back. Very little was shown of it on local channels here. Just the hostage surrounded by the executioners before the act was done. I dont imagine that any news media in this part of the world would show such a thing anyway. We may not be the epitome of the ideal civilization but we've moved on from medieval public displays of barbarity which however unfortunately, still seem to to enthrall and entertain our middle east bretheren Well it's a good job we're over there showing them the error of their barbaric ways by, er, killing them in their thousands. Good to see this topic has been posted in SF btw. However, here are my predictions for what we will see develop in this thread: - plenty of examples of cognitive dissonance in action from apologists for the murder of Iraqi civilians; - very little discussion about the issues that are raised by this incident and the way it has come to light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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