truman Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 IF the germans had lost WWII? Ooops,slip of the keyboard.. Fixed now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PC Brigade Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Not sure about the queen, but the public certainly had no knowledge of the gentlemens agreement that Blair and Brown had made prior to new labour gaining power. Surely, "we"; the voting public should have been made aware of all the facts regarding the new labour leadership, why all the cloak and dagger?. But that's a different matter - we didn't elect Tony Blair as Prime Minister either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danot Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 But that's a different matter - we didn't elect Tony Blair as Prime Minister either.Yes we did... 3 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubydazzler Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Yes we did... 3 times.NO! we didn't elect him as Prime Minister. That's not how it works. The Labour Party had previously elected him as their Leader. Then he was reliant on his constituents to elect him as their MP . If he'd failed to get their mandate, the Labour Party would have had to elect (amongst themselves which is how it works) another Leader of their party. And then the Queen would have invited whoever it was to form the new Government. Simples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danot Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 NO! we didn't elect him as Prime Minister. That's not how it works. The Labour Party had previously elected him as their Leader. Then he was reliant on his constituents to elect him as their MP . If he'd failed to get their mandate, the Labour Party would have had to elect (amongst themselves which is how it works) another Leader of their party. And then the Queen would have invited whoever it was to form the new Government. Simples? Yes, the party decides who stands, then we decide which party. So that means we appoint the PM doesn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubydazzler Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Yes, the party decides who stands, then we decide which party. So that means we appoint the PM doesn't it.No again, I'm afraid. If he'd done something to upset his party and been de-selected as the Leader, there wouldn;'t have been another General Election. They'd just have elected another Leader, as happened with Brown when Blair decided to take his winnings and do a runner. This isn't America, or any other country where you vote for the person you want to have in charge. More's the pity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Ooops,slip of the keyboard.. Fixed now.. I'd thought you were making some sort of comment about our German royalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esme Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 as I understand it the queen devolves her authority to parliament who then go and make all the decisions, but she has the authority not them, they just exercise it on her behalf however the queen derives her authority from being the descendant of a long line of prior kings and queens, and if you go far enough back it ultimately this derives from one guy in the tribe being big, nasty and killing or kicking the crap out of anyone who didn't do what they were told so really all this pomp and circumstance, the glitz and the glamour, the wealth and the power, this peaceful reign comes from fear of one person who ruled by violence and all the other bits were added over the years to appease the current murderous b*stard who clawed their way to the top over the bodies of their enemies in the hope that they wouldn't do anything nasty to the one making the appeasement that's where the queens authority comes from at the end of the day, really she's no different to you or I, no better no worse and she's only there because she had a big hard ancestor, not because she has any special quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I'd thought you were making some sort of comment about our German royalty. I never thought of it that way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubydazzler Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I'd thought you were making some sort of comment about our German royalty.Any little bit of German blood left they have must have been pretty well diluted by now, wouldn't you think? Or is it like those herbal remedies that 'remember' the trace of a single drop of essence diluted a thousand times. IIRC, The Queen is half Scots and her father was half Danish and Charles' father is Danish by origin, so not a lot of German in there by now? Any amateur genealogists/geneticists or whatever they're called care to calculate it for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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