How our society has degraded. Cultural Marxist/Critical Theory explained.

[Bozo]

He sounds quite critical, himself.

 

A world without criticism would be a place based on blind faith and deference to power. Something no right minded person would want.

 

Lind seems to have an embarrassingly poor understanding of Marxism and hence like a lot of critics of so called 'political correctness' offers explanations of 'Cultural Marxism' that are clear rejections of Marx's economic, political and philosophical thought. The reader is left to believe that he is guilty of the a priori thought of which he accuses his adversaries and the inclusion of the word 'Marxist' is intended to be pejorative rather then accurate.

[epiphany]

Lind seems to have an embarrassingly poor understanding of Marxism and hence like a lot of critics of so called 'political correctness' offers explanations of 'Cultural Marxism' that are clear rejections of Marx's economic, political and philosophical thought. The reader is left to believe that he is guilty of the a priori thought of which he accuses his adversaries and the inclusion of the word 'Marxist' is intended to be pejorative rather then accurate.

 

Bang on. The interpretations of Marx's work get broader and more obscure as time goes on.

[BritPat]

Bang on. The interpretations of Marx's work get broader and more obscure as time goes on.

 

Perhaps you could give us the benefit of your informed summary?

[epiphany]

Perhaps you could give us the benefit of your informed summary?

 

Read it yourself. You don't need my (inadequate) interpretation of it to prove anything do you? Although if you want a soundbite, I would say the video makes a pretty bold assumption about the cause of societal degradation. It talks about tradition, the family and the (myth of the) nation, and identifies that, fair enough, these elements have been dismantled somewhat, and then blames Marxism because Marxian scholars happened to critique the nature and substance of these elements.

 

I know you're probably used to blaming near every element of societal degradation on "Marxist lefties", but then people have always favoured the simplest conclusions for complex problems. At least some people are willing to look at them in detail (Marx, Gramsci, Adorno etc.).

 

Edit: The fact that the video is entitled "critical theory explained" yet only lasts 8 minutes long says it all really. There's being succinct...

[garrence]

The video is a hilarious load of cobblers!!

 

It even tries to blame the federal bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac on the evil cultural Marxists, with some fool complaining how his stock value is down 80%. That's actually because the institutions were bankrupt and his shares were worthless until the government piled in a massive amount of money to save the banks - so much money that their share of the equity is now far greater than the existing investors. He would have lost 100% of his money otherwise!!

 

So the capitalist system gets way too greedy and fails, the state mounts a bailout to save the remains, saves the idiot from losing all his stake - and he complains about it! The over trading of collaterialized debt obligations and credit default swaps leading to the collapse when the debts didn't get paid back is nothing to do with some Marxist conspiracy!!!

 

Or was his interview taken from somewhere else and used out of context?...

 

GitD - try this:

 

Stop using your imagination to blame anything you want on this bizarre theory that you barely understand, just because it looks convincing on the surface and because it fits in with your peculiar world view.

 

Replace the fuse in your head and start applying some critical thought yourself. Start by questioning the fabricated nonsense you are lapping up.

 

The ability to think is a good thing. Don't be afraid of it.

[BritPat]

The video is a hilarious load of cobblers!!

 

It even tries to blame the federal bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac on the evil cultural Marxists, with some fool complaining how his stock value is down 80%. That's actually because the institutions were bankrupt and his shares were worthless until the government piled in a massive amount of money to save the banks - so much money that their share of the equity is now far greater than the existing investors. He would have lost 100% of his money otherwise!!

 

1)So the capitalist system gets way too greedy and fails, 2)the state mounts a bailout to save the remains, saves the idiot from losing all his stake - and he complains about it! 3)The over trading of collaterialized debt obligations and credit default swaps leading to the collapse when the debts didn't get paid back is nothing to do with some Marxist conspiracy!!!

 

Or was his interview taken from somewhere else and used out of context?...

 

GitD - try this:

 

Stop using your imagination to blame anything you want on this bizarre theory that you barely understand, just because it looks convincing on the surface and because it fits in with your peculiar world view.

 

Replace the fuse in your head and start applying some critical thought yourself. Start by questioning the fabricated nonsense you are lapping up.

 

The ability to think is a good thing. Don't be afraid of it.

 

1) The Banksters are still rich and powerful, the National Governments that deliberately under-regulated and therefore facillitated the collapse are still in power.

 

How precisely has the Capitalist system failed? Ordinary workers have lost their jobs, Ordinary citizens have lost their homes, our children will be indebted for several generations all this is true but that isn't the same thing as the Capitalist Banksters and their wholly owned place men the politicians failing is it?

 

2) The State mounts a bail out using the as yet unearned income of those that will suffer the most !

 

3) The over trading and hyper pricing of fraudulently rated CDO's was a known issue by the regulators pre crash and yet no action !

 

Credit default swaps gave a false sense of insurance thereby increasing the over trading.

 

The regulators were aware pre crash that the obligations of the Credit Default Swaps could not be met yet no action !

[garrence]

Hello BritPat.

 

Thanks for your tacit agreement that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac has naff all to do with "Cultural Marxism".

 

You appear to pick up on a tiny part of my post to question and throw the thread somewhat off-topic. If you really want an answer - the system failed and was then rescued. Not very interesting, but hey.

[BritPat]

Hello BritPat.

 

Thanks for your tacit agreement that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac has naff all to do with "Cultural Marxism".

 

You appear to pick up on a tiny part of my post to question and throw the thread somewhat off-topic. If you really want an answer - the system failed and was then rescued. Not very interesting, but hey.

 

Hello Garrence your analysis (no marxist pun intended ) appears to be somewhat flawed if you discern a tacit agreement.

 

The system was manipulated to rob the masses and the masses then have to pay their robbers for services rendered !!!

 

'Not very interesting', you give the impression that you don't understand your own post !

[garrence]

Hello Garrence your analysis (no marxist pun intended ) appears to be somewhat flawed if you discern a tacit agreement.

 

I see - so you genuinely believe that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is a conspiracy by "cultural Marxists". You'll need to do a lot of explaining to convince economists of that one.

 

The system was manipulated to rob the masses and the masses then have to pay their robbers for services rendered !!!

 

Your claim that it was engineered by a (very large) conspiracy to transfer wealth from the masses to those that hold the power is somewhat the opposite of socialism!

[Longcol]

This is an American video but it applies to the whole of western society.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4UZNzPTB_4

 

COULD A MOD FIX THE TITLE FOR ME? i missed the word society!

 

So explain in your own words what wonderful society we have "degraded" from. What wonders existed before "cultural marxism"?