Drivers face ban for drinking a pint

[alchresearch]

Here's an idea, why don't you take your off topic chat to another thread so we can talk about the OP's question?

[Zaytsev]

The LCC flies in the face of statistics for safety concerning Motorcyclists and bus lanes:

 

LINK

[spindrift]

They didn't mention it because the survey is too small and too limited to offer worthwhile conclusions.

 

http://www.lcc.org.uk/index.asp?PageID=1647

 

LCC communications officer Mike Cavenett said,

 

"We share TfL's view that it's not possible to say from this four-month data set whether bus lanes are safer or more dangerous for any road users.

 

"We feel it would be misleading to use this data to make claims about safety. Any conclusions of this kind would ignore TfL's explicit advice that such comparison's are not meaningful based on this data."

[Zaytsev]

They didn't mention it because the survey is too small and too limited to offer worthwhile conclusions.

 

http://www.lcc.org.uk/index.asp?PageID=1647

 

But they would say that wouldn't they.

[spindrift]

TFL said it as well:

 

 

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/motorcycles-in-bus-lanes-interim-report-november-2009.pdf

[Paul2412]

Cycling in Germany is very strange indeed. Drivers are super-cautious and careful. I guess it's because cycling rates are higher there so drivers may well also be cyclists so are aware of potential hazards. A day cycling on urban roads should be included as part of the driving test.

 

Why? I have absolutely no interest in cycling.

 

Maybe before cyclists are allowed on the road they should pass their HGV test?

[fridayfeelin]

Good. Make it zero. Plus, any driver caught driving on a mobile phone gets the phone confiscated, no questions. Uninsured drivers have their car scrapped and a 5 year ban. More cameras everywhere, every traffic light, zebra crossing, cycle lane. Life bans for killer drivers. Start clamping down on our lawless roads, deal out some proper, harsh sentences and get these twits off the roads.

 

Yep then you'll be on here moaning about our taxes have risen to cope with all the extra man power needed to start, process and finish the work involved with all those camera's, policing, courts & staff, paperwork, materials etc.......

[spindrift]

Yep then you'll be on here moaning about our taxes have risen to cope with all the extra man power needed to start, process and finish the work involved with all those camera's, policing, courts & staff, paperwork, materials etc.......

 

The experience from speed cameras is that as well as reducing accidents and saving lives they money raised through fines is hypothecated so can only be spent on road safety. They are better than self-funding. ANPR cameras could work just as well, get idiots off the roads and raise money to make the roads safer, what's not to like?

 

Here's a funny thought, there are fewer cyclist commuters in this country (1m) than there are uninsured cars (1.4m).

 

So, even if every single cyclist is a crazed lycra-nazi, they are still outnumbered by the uninsured, untaxed invisible cars that cost the rest of us £500 million a year in insurance pay outs.

[Zaytsev]

TFL said it as well:

 

 

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/motorcycles-in-bus-lanes-interim-report-november-2009.pdf

 

So you disagree with the LCC calling for an end to the trial on safety grounds despite them stating prior to the trial that it would lead to more incidents.

 

Even now they want it to end:

 

In a fresh online appeal LCC says: ‘After the recent death of a cyclist in a collision with a motorbike, LCC is urging people to make their views known on the motorbikes in bus lanes trial before 5 January 2010.

 

‘A female cyclist died in hospital on 29 October 2009, nine days after the incident that took place while she was cycling eastbound along the Embankment.’

 

LCC communications officer Mike Cavenett adds in quotes: "Even though this fatality didn't take place in a bus lane, it shows how vulnerable cyclists can be.

 

"We're campaigning to reverse the mayor's trial, and give back bus lanes to cyclists as areas that provide them with greater safety.”

[Zaytsev]

The experience from speed cameras is that as well as reducing accidents and saving lives they money raised through fines is hypothecated so can only be spent on road safety. They are better than self-funding. ANPR cameras could work just as well, get idiots off the roads and raise money to make the roads safer, what's not to like?

 

Here's a funny thought, there are fewer cyclist commuters in this country (1m) than there are uninsured cars (1.4m).

 

So, even if every single cyclist is a crazed lycra-nazi, they are still outnumbered by the uninsured, untaxed invisible cars that cost the rest of us £500 million a year in insurance pay outs.

 

Cyclists don't pay insurance so how does it cost them?