stewpot54 Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 And not in the news today thousands more have not been attacked. Your case is dismissed. Also not in the news today not too many people have been murdered.So that's o.k. There's a mother out there devastated at the loss of her child.Not too bothered then because there are a lot more kids who will not be torn to pieces by a dog. Celebration time for the dog lovers methinks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medusa Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 Threads merged. Please use the search facility before posting a new thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewpot54 Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 Millions, I should think - by tens of millions of non-savage dogs. Scoring points when a child has been savaged to death.How low is that!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 Scoring points when a child has been savaged to death.How low is that!!! A fair point. If the guy who was originally trying to score points by campaigning for a dog ban, will apologise and withdraw his comments, then I'll do the same. Who was that, by the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonBennet Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Its not the breed, its the owners. ANY breed can be trained to be nasty, and ANY breed can turn. Just as ANY breed can be trained to be a good dog, and ANY breed might not turn. Get a dog, but do your research beforehand. Save up plenty of money, crate train, lead train, take to training classes, socialise the dog, make sure children are aware of how to treat the animal with respect and vice versa. Excercise it for the time its recommended. Feed it a food that is designed for their stomachs, rather than just any old tin of wet food, that wont make it hyper. After all that, I dont know if this dogs owner HAS done any of the above but for christ sake, its not the breed. Id have a staffie in my house anyday around my son over a springer spaniel! I'm getting sick of people blaming the breed now, i'm 24 years old and the only vicious dogs i've encountered are Yorkshire terriers, Jack Russels and one Rottie. IT'S THE OWNERS WHO SHOULD BE PUNISHED, NOT THE BREED! Wrong again, just as this viewpoint is every time it's aired every time a staffy savages a child. Here's an American site that states the facts about "pit bull" type dogs and their regular attacks on humans. http://www.dogsbite.org/dangerous-dogs-pitbull-myths.htm And here's proof from that site that it IS the breed that's to blame, not the owner! "Myth #1: It's the owner not the breed The outdated debate, "It's the owner, not the breed," has caused the pit bull problem to grow into a 30-year old problem.1 Designed to protect pit bull breeders and owners, the slogan ignores the genetic history of the breed and blames these horrific maulings -- inflicted by the pit bull's genetic "hold and shake" bite style -- on environmental factors. While environment plays a role in a pit bull's behavior, it is genetics that leaves pit bull victims with permanent and disfiguring injury. The pit bull's genetic traits are not in dispute. Many U.S. courts agree that pit bulls pose a significant danger to society and can be regulated accordingly. Some of the genetic traits courts have identified include: unpredictability of aggression, tenacity ("gameness" the refusal to give up a fight), high pain tolerance and the pit bull's "hold and shake" bite style.2 According to forensic medical studies, similar injuries have only been found elsewhere on victims of shark attacks.3 Perpetuators of this myth also cannot account for the many instances in which pit bull owners and family members are victimized by their pet dogs. From 2005 to 2009, pit bulls killed 82 Americans, about one citizen every 22 days. 44% (36) of these attacks involved a family member and the family pit bull." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kazads53 Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 Wrong again, just as this viewpoint is every time it's aired every time a staffy savages a child. Here's an American site that states the facts about "pit bull" type dogs and their regular attacks on humans. http://www.dogsbite.org/dangerous-dogs-pitbull-myths.htm And here's proof from that site that it IS the breed that's to blame, not the owner! "Myth #1: It's the owner not the breed The outdated debate, "It's the owner, not the breed," has caused the pit bull problem to grow into a 30-year old problem.1 Designed to protect pit bull breeders and owners, the slogan ignores the genetic history of the breed and blames these horrific maulings -- inflicted by the pit bull's genetic "hold and shake" bite style -- on environmental factors. While environment plays a role in a pit bull's behavior, it is genetics that leaves pit bull victims with permanent and disfiguring injury. The pit bull's genetic traits are not in dispute. Many U.S. courts agree that pit bulls pose a significant danger to society and can be regulated accordingly. Some of the genetic traits courts have identified include: unpredictability of aggression, tenacity ("gameness" the refusal to give up a fight), high pain tolerance and the pit bull's "hold and shake" bite style.2 According to forensic medical studies, similar injuries have only been found elsewhere on victims of shark attacks.3 Perpetuators of this myth also cannot account for the many instances in which pit bull owners and family members are victimized by their pet dogs. From 2005 to 2009, pit bulls killed 82 Americans, about one citizen every 22 days. 44% (36) of these attacks involved a family member and the family pit bull." So why do they own them then?? no body makes them buy one,these poor owners and family who get attacked by them..and just to make it clear these are pit bulls they are talking about ..not staffies as certain folk would have you believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewpot54 Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 A fair point. If the guy who was originally trying to score points by campaigning for a dog ban, will apologise and withdraw his comments, then I'll do the same. Who was that, by the way? Who was that .Are you suggesting it was me????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 It's a classic labour trademark, ineffective rushed legislation. They've passed more laws than every other government before them together. And most of it is wooly and ill thought out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 My neighbours dog across the street jumped on the mailman a few years back. He wasn't bitten but he complained to the post office. A few days later the neighbour got a letter from the local post master which told him that he would have to install his mail box by the side of the street kerb. No further deliveries at the door for the next three years. If he didn't comply then he would have to pick up his mail at the post office and on top of that there would be no more mail deliveries to the two houses on either side of his and incredibly no mail delivery to my house and those on either side. Didn't make any sense but those were standard post office policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamatron Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8627361.stm So how many of our children are going to have to die before these nasty breeds of dog (staffie, mastiff) are banned, and possession is equal to that of a knife?. Pathetic uk laws pathetic commenters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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