phantom309 Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Mr. Cameron and Mr. Brown are trying to tell us that voting for the Liberal Democrats may result in a hung parliament which would be detrimental to the country but most of European country's have a coalition government and seem to manage quite a bit better than we do is this because their politicians are better than the people who are supposed to be politicians in our country who seem as if they are unable to compromise and work together for the good of the country. I agree with Mr. Cameron that we do need a change but to the system and not to a different party, so I believe it would be a good thing for this country if the Liberal Democrats gained enough seats so as to force a change to the electoral system by bringing in proportional representational to replace first past the post system which is more like a dictatorship than a democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telman Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Still got Scottish politicians voting on laws that don't apply to Scotland. The conserveatives and Labour won't change anything no matter what they say now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrobbo Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Mr. Cameron and Mr. Brown are trying to tell us that voting for the Liberal Democrats may result in a hung parliament which would be detrimental to the country but most of European country's have a coalition government and seem to manage quite a bit better than we do is this because their politicians are better than the people who are supposed to be politicians in our country who seem as if they are unable to compromise and work together for the good of the country. I agree with Mr. Cameron that we do need a change but to the system and not to a different party, so I believe it would be a good thing for this country if the Liberal Democrats gained enough seats so as to force a change to the electoral system by bringing in proportional representational to replace first past the post system which is more like a dictatorship than a democracy. The Labour manifesto states that if re-elected they will hold a Democracy Day next year, in which a referendum will be held on a choice of voting systems. The Conservatives have flatly refused to consider changing first-past-the-post voting. However, they will legislate to reduce the number of MPs. The Tories know full well that this will greatly reduce the number of Labour MPs (and probably reduce the number of Lib Dem MPs) - thus likely as not entrenching Conservative governments in future general elections. That's what I would call an elected dictatorship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 The Conservatives have flatly refused to consider changing first-past-the-post voting. However, they will legislate to reduce the number of MPs. The Tories know full well that this will greatly reduce the number of Labour MPs (and probably reduce the number of Lib Dem MPs) - thus likely as not entrenching Conservative governments in future general elections. That's what I would call an elected dictatorship! It's what people who actually look at the figures would call "England is solidly Conservative and has been for decades, and finally they'll get the government they have always voted for." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetItDone Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 The Labour manifesto states that if re-elected they will hold a Democracy Day next year, in which a referendum will be held on a choice of voting systems. Hows about a referendum on the EU?....oh wait, too late The Conservatives have flatly refused to consider changing first-past-the-post voting. However, they will legislate to reduce the number of MPs. The Tories know full well that this will greatly reduce the number of Labour MPs (and probably reduce the number of Lib Dem MPs) - thus likely as not entrenching Conservative governments in future general elections. That's what I would call an elected dictatorship! Hows about Labour - knowing that the working class's just arn't turning up to vote - importing working class's in from the 3rd and 2nd world to vote for you instead - thus entrenching Labour governments in future general elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccsux Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 The Labour manifesto states that if re-elected they will hold a Democracy Day next year, in which a referendum will be held on a choice of voting systems. And will full proportional representation be on the list, or just the additional vote method? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert_Baehr Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Yes . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrobbo Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 ...Hows about Labour - knowing that the working class's just arn't turning up to vote - importing working class's in from the 3rd and 2nd world to vote for you instead - thus entrenching Labour governments in future general elections. I'm not familiar with the phrase "2nd world". But it seems you are not familiar with the fact that third world immigrants do not have the vote in UK elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrobbo Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 And will full proportional representation be on the list, or just the additional vote method? Link: http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2010/04/08/gordon-brown-promises-democracy-day-referendums-on-a-radical-constitutional-shake-up-92534-26198044/ "What Mr Brown called “the most comprehensive programme of constitutional for a century” included: A referendum, by October, 2011, on the AV system for the Commons and on a proportional representation (PR) system for the Lords, removing the remaining hereditary peers; Fixed-term Parliaments, removing the Prime Minister’s ability to call a general election at a time of his or her choosing; A right to recall MPs guilty of “gross financial misconduct”; A right to petition the Commons to trigger debates on issues of “significant public concern”; Giving Parliament a free vote on reducing the voting age to 16; A ban on MPs carrying out lobbying work – and a requirement for those wanting to take up outside jobs to gain approval from an independent body." I personally favour a system of PR, and as a Labour Party member would lobby for PR to be included in any constitutional referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert_Baehr Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 I'm not familiar with the phrase "2nd world". But it seems you are not familiar with the fact that third world immigrants do not have the vote in UK elections. Unless, of course, they come from ex-commonwealth countries. Who can vote? British, Irish and qualifying citizens of Commonwealth countries (including Cyprus and Malta) can vote at all elections. 'Qualifying' countries: Commonwealth countries Antigua and Barbuda Australia The Bahamas Bangladesh Barbados Belize Botswana Brunei Darussalam Cameroon Canada Cyprus Dominica Fiji Islands The Gambia Ghana Grenada Guyana India Jamaica Kenya Kiribati Lesotho Malawi Malaysia Maldives Malta Mauritius Mozambique Namibia Nauru New Zealand Nigeria Pakistan Papua New Guinea Rwanda St Kitts & Nevis St Lucia St Vincent & The Grenadines Samoa Seychelles Sierra Leone Singapore Solomon Islands South Africa Sri Lanka Swaziland United Republic of Tanzania Tonga Trinidad & Tobago Tuvalu Uganda United Kingdom Vanuatu Zambia Zimbabwe. They do have to register (and they've got until Wednesday to do so.) 'Mugabe ... How do you spell that sir?' It's not easy to get to be able to vote in the UK! If you come from one of that extremely short list and if you are registered to vote, you may vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.