JFKvsNixon Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 The thing is though, you will be hard pressed to prove that you missing your filght was beyond your control, where as the airlines have proof that it was beyond their control. Let's remember ALL EU airlines, even the lenient ones had to pay up. Some of the airline paid up straight away, like EasyJet. There have been plenty of occasions where people have missed their check in time through reason beyond their own control, weather and traffic problems spring to mind straight away. Anyway, this is beside the point, as I said earlier I have no sympathy for Ryan Air as they are renowned for not showing any leniency and sticking to the letter of their contract. Maybe Ryan Air should be asking themselves why they were not insured against such eventualities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingmaker2 Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Maybe Ryan Air should be asking themselves why they were not insured against such eventualities? Insurance companies won't insure against "Acts of God" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 No surprise. The emergency oxgen is probably on a meter on their flights, so don't forget to always take a stack of 10p's when flying Ryanair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Insurance companies won't insure against "Acts of God" The act of God clause cannot describe a volcano erupting in a know volcanic area. The insurance companies will pay out on natural events such as the flood in Sheffield. They do put in clauses against some natural disasters. So after Hurricane Katrina they would only pay out for wind damage and not flood damage, but that was because the houses were in flood zones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 The act of God clause cannot describe a volcano erupting in a know volcanic area. The insurance companies will pay out on natural events such as the flood in Sheffield. They do put in clauses against some natural disasters. So after Hurricane Katrina they would only pay out for wind damage and not flood damage, but that was because the houses were in flood zones. It is also up to the individual to have travel insurance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingmaker2 Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 The act of God clause cannot describe a volcano erupting in a know volcanic area. The insurance companies will pay out on natural events such as the flood in Sheffield. They do put in clauses against some natural disasters. So after Hurricane Katrina they would only pay out for wind damage and not flood damage, but that was because the houses were in flood zones. I think you are wrong. In fact O' leary also mentioned himself on the BBC News today that the airlines couldn't get insurance against a volcanic ash cloud. A lufthansa spokesman also says: "There is no insurance for losses due to this specific kind of natural disaster, spokesperson for the German flagship carrier Claudia Lange told the Dow Jones news agency." http://www.thelocal.de/money/20100416-26593.html Also: "Insurers of airlines say that they cannot claim for losses incurred due to volcanic eruption." http://www.institutionalinvestor.com/green_investing/Articles/2469036/Airlines-Are-Not-Insured-Against-Volcanic-Eruption.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 The airlines are now trying to change the rules for compensation so they don't have to pay out for meals and accommodation in future. Its nice to see a positive EU rule for once, I can't imagine our Government giving such rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingmaker2 Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 The airlines are now trying to change the rules for compensation so they don't have to pay out for meals and accommodation in future. Its nice to see a positive EU rule for once, I can't imagine our Government giving such rights. The trouble is, Ryan Air and probably many other airlines are now filing claims against the EU to recoup the cost that the airlines had to pay out to its customers. If the EU doesn't recompensate the airlines then it's likely that your next airline ticket will cost just a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingmaker2 Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Another organisation wanting a change to the EU rules: The British Airline Pilots' Association Balpa also raised concerns over the financial impact of EU 261, the regulations setting out airlines' responsibilities in the event of flights being delayed or cancelled. The rules should be loosened because volcanic ash constitutes sufficiently "extraordinary circumstances" to obviate the payment of compensation, for example, says Balpa. "The EU needs to act as their delayed passenger compensation scheme was never designed with this situation in mind and is now crippling our industry," the organisation said. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/ba-demands-government-compensation-as-airlines-watch-reserves-go-up-in-smoke-1948899.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upinwath Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 What costs are they anticipating to be repaid for? The small print will almost ceratinly absolve the company from any reproach. It does. The small print in European law excludes "extraordinary" events. Ryanair is right not to pay up. It's blame society crap again. Like they are to blame for a volcano. Sugar happens. Live with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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