Why are people bothered about racist remarks aimed at them ?

[bizzle]

Post 93.

 

But it does not matter. Some things never change it seems.

 

Pot calling the kettle black, me thinks.

[Wildcat]

I've only just seen this comment, ok. Here goes. I make the accusation that you're a bigot and that your prejudice has blinded you to the view that ageist, sexist, sizeist, gingerist abuse is similar in effect, no better no worse, to racist abuse against B & A or ME people. I also consider that you're incapable of seeing the irony in your own comments about this subject. How's that? Satisfied now?

 

There are parallels, none of those comparators are anything like as widespread or go to the same sort of levels as racism.

 

Just look at forum debates for example, the number of Islamaphobic and directly racist threads and posts (or ones that seek to downgrade racism as some how the fault of the victim for not having thicker skin) far exceeds in volume and nastiness any of the other examples you mention.

 

There isn't so far as I am aware a political party that stands on a platform based on any of your examples apart from race. I don't think we have any candidates representing us that have been in a group that was involved in firebombing people with ginger hair or fat peoples houses. We do in the form of Andrew Brons and his National Socialist past and its history of firebombing jewish homes.

 

That is not to say any other form of discrimination is acceptable, it is just that the more pressing concern relates to racism, and racist propagandising.

[ricgem2002]

alien

yea we read what you put on here as a adult, but for the life of me i cant figure out why being an ass has its advantages

[jongo]

Probably because racist remarks were something of an unpleasant 'novelty' to you, whereas for many other people, such verbal abuse, along with being treated with suspicion, being lied to to cause inconvenience, being lied about to provoke hatred from others, getting poor service, being ignored, being passed over in favour of others, even being assaulted, purely based on skin colour would be the sort of discrimination that they, their parents and their grandparents would have had to endure on a regular basis.

 

 

Your turn of phrase shows that you do not have the foggiest notion what it's like to suffer the real effects of racism, regardless of whatever prejudiced comments you may have received abroad.

 

 

And that accusation says a great deal about you.

 

 

 

Didn't take long for a cheerleader to appear (a very predictable one)>>

Another person who would always be in the firing line, no doubt.

 

Of course, the fact of the matter is that these people have no need to worry themselves about the occasional prejudiced remarks, simply because racism has no impact at all on their day-to-day well being and therefore their motivation for these comments is highly suspect.

 

 

 

Why would I not have any idea of how it feels, when I have already said that it has happened to me ?

 

And what exactly does it say about me ?

[jongo]

Do you think overdosing on stress pills and painkillers, is 'running to teacher'?

 

Maybe it is 'petty and counter productive' to let yourself be affected by racist remarks.... but not everyone is able to.

 

There are people who get bullied on the internet, people constantly calling them names and pulling them down, ganging up on them with other users

 

Not nice to see, let alone be on the receiving end of such bullying.

 

When are you going to stop doing this ?

[Streamline]

There are people who get bullied on the internet, people constantly calling them names and pulling them down, ganging up on them with other users

 

Not nice to see, let alone be on the receiving end of such bullying.

 

When are you going to stop doing this ?

 

He isn't as he's one of the bullies. "Islamophobia" being one of his favourites.

 

Here's the Runnymedes Trust's definition:- Note it has nothing to do with mental illness which any phobia would normally be defined under.

 

1) Islam is seen as a monolithic bloc, static and unresponsive to change.

2) Islam is seen as separate and 'other'. It does not have values in common with other cultures, is not affected by them and does not influence them.

3) Islam is seen as inferior to the West. It is seen as barbaric, irrational, primitive and sexist.

4) Islam is seen as violent, aggressive, threatening, supportive of terrorism and engaged in a 'clash of civilisations'.

5) Islam is seen as a political ideology and is used for political or military advantage.

6) Criticisms made of the West by Islam are rejected out of hand.

7) Hostility towards Islam is used to justify discriminatory practices towards Muslims and exclusion of Muslims from mainstream society.

Anti-Muslim hostility is seen as natural or normal.

 

In conclusion it seems to me that any criticism directed towards Islam is considered islamophobia.

[shims]

Why would I not have any idea of how it feels, when I have already said that it has happened to me ?

 

And what exactly does it say about me ?

 

The answer to both those questions is contained in the post I made that you've quoted and in your initial post. I'm not being evasive, simply, if you think about what is written in those posts you have the answers.

[mikmouse]

Probably because racist remarks were something of an unpleasant 'novelty' to you, whereas for many other people, such verbal abuse, along with being treated with suspicion, being lied to to cause inconvenience, being lied about to provoke hatred from others, getting poor service, being ignored, being passed over in favour of others, even being assaulted, purely based on skin colour would be the sort of discrimination that they, their parents and their grandparents would have had to endure on a regular basis.

 

 

Your turn of phrase shows that you do not have the foggiest notion what it's like to suffer the real effects of racism, regardless of whatever prejudiced comments you may have received abroad.

 

 

And that accusation says a great deal about you.

 

 

 

Didn't take long for a cheerleader to appear (a very predictable one)>>

Another person who would always be in the firing line, no doubt.

 

Of course, the fact of the matter is that these people have no need to worry themselves about the occasional prejudiced remarks, simply because racism has no impact at all on their day-to-day well being and therefore their motivation for these comments is highly suspect.

Ahhhh, i see whats happened here. Your mates taken a pasting from Ruby and others so your here to try and 'redress the balance'.

Sad reaslly but there you go:hihi:

[donkey]

Ahhhh, i see whats happened here. Your mates taken a pasting from Ruby and others so your here to try and 'redress the balance'.

Sad reaslly but there you go:hihi:

 

Shims made some very convincing points actually, especially the one about people who have only experienced racism once or twice in their lives not really being qualified to speak for those who get it all the time.

 

Because you have't even attempted to answer any of those points, I take it you can't.

[jongo]

Shims made some very convincing points actually, especially the one about people who have only experiences racism once or twice in their lives not really being qualified to speak for those who get it every all the time.

 

Because you have't even attempted to answer any of those points, I take it you can't.

 

And assuming that Shims failed to answer me, I take it that he/she can't.